Why the hell did anti-flag go main streem ive bean listening to them for years and they got more popular every year i new this shit was gonna happin

go to launch see there video

ha i saw this coming long ago, and yes them going main stream was really shitty. it's sad what they've become.

Ya...I hate it when semi-unknown bands have really good music and then they completely alternate their style just to become main stream. That sucks.

I remember going to an anti flag show in one of the smallest venues ever and it was a really great show. Sad that their attempting to sell out but I guess they just want their views to be heard, I don't think their idiots though and when I saw them play they made it clear they appreciate their fans just by how they present themselves. Their too skilled with their insturments to not sell out and im a little surprised it didn't happen earlier, but I mean come on of all bands anti-flag.

good point blaze, althought i never saw them live. but whenever a band gets the chance to make themselves bigger they always go that way simply because they want to be heard so i guess its no different for them.

people now are getting like 'i liked less than jake before they sold out.' but the irony is that i always thought these bands made shit music, so it only seems fitting that they should become popular. not saying that ltj and antiflag have any similarities musically, i just think they share a common bad quality and they both are sell outs now

Anti-Flag has stayed on the underground for a while, I think they've kept it this way and their views are really something that should be heard and they try and promote things that they feel are important and need to be known. Their smart and know how to play their insturments, them selling out I don't really care about unless the music is changed. Comparing them to less than jake though? I feel like they deserve a bit more credit than that, what makes their music shit? Insturmentals are good, not the best but I'd say the higher end of average and their views are great and thought out supporting and rebeling against the norm, seems like their pretty punk to me. Their ideas need to be heard I really think and at a show they will sit there explaining them to you in between songs, its not just **** the governement because... because!!

A band who speaks out about politics and economics selling out is the biggest joke I've ever heard. By selling out and going mainstream they basically told everyone who is or was a fan of theirs that everything they ever sang about isn't that important. Saying that they just want their ideas to be heard makes you the biggest jerk ever. I'm sure it is such trouble for them to take their sack of cash so they can be heard and spread their ideas. Come on by taking money (or more money) and going into the mainstream they sent out their biggest message ever that going back on your ideas for money is ok.

Well they own their own label to start off which isnt in the RIAA, they are signed to fat wreck records though, I think. They've made a video and the biggest place people have seen it is launch.com, their practically n'sync!!! I don't see how their anti money though, just anti the government. We're basing them selling out on a video thats being circulated around the internet.

I guess in reality they haven't sold out for money to say, and maybe they aren't "anti money" but more anti capitalism(not to say that they are socialists or communists). To be totally honest I thought they "sold out" a long time ago, and maybe sold out isn't the right term but for lack of better word I'll use that. I saw them in '97 or '98(not totally sure which it was) after "Die for the government" came out and was somewhat impressed with them. To see a very left band take the stage and speak out stronger then the Dead Kennedys had at times made a very strong impact on me. This was at a time when I knew a little about politics and still had a bit of an Anarchist in me. One of the biggest parts of the show that impressed me was the fact that the band played infront of an upside down and torn American flag. I saw them again a few years later on their tour with Dropkick Murphy, at this time they had gotten rid of the American flag and now had a back drop with a bunch of kids on it that read "New Kind of Army" this hit me hard to think that they had backed down from such a strong stance, also it seemed that they had lightened up a bit on their political views. I was very not impressed with them. I saw them a third time at the Warped Tour last year, this is where I realized they truly were dipshits. The first words out of their mouths were "**** George Bush"(quite understandable) and "**** all you Nazis and racists out there." Warped Tour has become a fairly mainstream event and had no Skinhead bands playing that year so the possibility that their would be a large percent of boneheads in the crowd was very very little, but still they made it a point to say that. At that point I took them for what they were, a bunch of jerks that had no clue what was going on. They are simply the type of people that want to be "political and stuff" and don't know what the **** they are talking about. that is why they can loose intensity from burning flags to saying **** George Bush, they don't know what to hate so it can change easily. so maybe they aren't sell outs just jerks.