What a way to go! A knife in the chest? Damn! That's a psyco!

I was listening to his music all day yesterday. The lyrics kind of took on new meanings. I still don't know what the think about it all. He was one of the most talented and under appreciated artists of the last decade. Hopefully, like drake, people's appreciation of him will grow over time.

Thanks for your compassion Homeless.

Hey, you're welcome........Too bad a super talented musician was lost, but ( in my opinion) people that kill themselves are cowards! Sorry!
It's alot harder to go on living than it is to take the easy way out. When successful and talented people kill themselves, the logic is lost on me. People who have it worse and have less can manage to face whatever depression that come with that and go on living, maybe even hapily, when a semi-wealthy and very talented person does something like this, I just think it's a coward's way out!

I'm not about to argue that what he did was right. I have pretty strong opinions on suicide as I'm sure you do. But say someone close to you commited suicide out of the blue. (yes this was out of the blue. I read an interview just a few months back in which Elliott was saying he had gotten over his drug problem, straightened out his life, and was feeling better than he ever had before.) What would be your first reaction? What a psycho? What a coward? I doubt it. If you cared at all about them all of your preconceived opinions would mean sh!t.


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that totally brings me down
it's weird because i was recently watching the royal tenebaums which has his song being played while luke wilson was cutting himself. They rushed him to the hospital and all that and he survived but Elliot didn't. It kind of makes me really think more about death now.
When Kurt died it got me wondering to if it's meant to happen and if we go to heaven or hell or anything like that when we die.
Not meaning to get religious or sentimental, but i've said it before...
That if you dig yourself a deep enough hole you might never see the top again and maybe thats what happened to him.
it reminds me of what happened to my friend
I don't think it's a sick twisted hoax although we'd all like to think that

well i think we all know now that it's not a hoax.

it's all over MTV, NME and rolling stone.

i think that to say that suicide is the coward's way out is a little shallow and narrowminded. until you can get into someone's head, then i think that you are NOT fit to judge and whilst you have your opinions you shouldn't thrust such a topic onto people that may be a little sensitive about it right now.

i have lost NO respect for elliott smith; his problems were his own and his solution was his choice.

in fact, right now, i think that that comment is bullshit. so what if it's supposedly stronger to live? that's raw, man. it's the person's life, it's their own, they do whatever the hell the want with it and they can end it if they want, too. emotional/physical/mental trauma can be very, VERY overbearing and i challenge ANYONE to put themselves in that position and then still come out (if they can) saying that suicide is a coward's way out.

sometimes it's not brave just to live. i think it's ridiculous that comments like that can arise. fair enough, it's personal opinion, but it's MY personal opinion that THAT personal opinion is a load of bullshit.

just because he was famous didn't make the pressure any less. he was still a person who had thoughts and emotions. ****ing bullshit man.

i too have been playing elliott a lot for the past couple of days; not obsessively but kind of as a tribute for him in my own little way. this part of coming up roses has stuck in my head particularly:

so you got in a kind of trouble
that nobody knows
it's coming up roses
everywhere you go
red roses

Oh,....okay, but the fact is,-YOU were NOT Elliot Smith's CLOSE FRIEND, so even though your feelings are valid, you're still JUST A FAN he never knew, so get over it.........You felt like he was close to you, but to be honest, you didn't personally KNOW him or what he was REALLY like. You like his music.......
Don't try to turn this into a situation where a CLOSE friend kills himself, how would I feel? That's not what we are talking about.......
Anybody..., friend or celebrity, that kills himself with a knife wound to the chest= psyco!, coward! Sorry!
When I see the same dirty bum with the bad leg walkin' down the street in the cold of Chicago everyday, I think about the fact that he hasn't killed himself, and people like Elliot Smith seem like cowards.....

I live in Chicago, and I see hundreds of people who have it a MILLIOND TIMES WORSE, and I'll tell you what, I don't need to get in their heads to know that. By the way, did you know him personally? I didn't think so, ...get a grip! You have no idea what he was really like, you just like his music....you are in New Zealand, huh? Funny how you are talking about bein' narrow minded when you live in a country of 4 million, and I live in a city with almost 9 million people. So, until you come to America and see a major metropolis with tens of thousands of criminals and homeless living in the cold, spare me your narrow minded speech....There's no many Fu*king people here that live a daily nightmare that it's such a fu*king joke to compare a wealthy white guy's personal problems to it!

Besides,Elliot Smith wasn't a dirty crackhead bum, with a bad leg and rotting teeth. I see a certain bum like this every couple weeks. His teeth are rotting out, and he's got a bad leg. He's got some holes in his shoes, and it's fu*king 20 degrees out! What would a New Zealander know about living in the cold? Elliot Smith wasn't a 50 year old jobless and disabled homeless person with no skills or talents....How many tens of millions of people live in your city? (your country has a population of about 4 million) I see this kinda shit all the time! I live in the third biggest city in America! (almost 9 million in the city, another 4 in the suburbs)You are in New Zeeland! Gimme a break! You are talkin' about narrow-minded? Shit, you're a fu*kin music fan talking in defense of suicide while still obviously emotional because of Elliot's death....I can judge whoever the fu*k I want, especially celebrities.....






I'D LIKE TO PUT ELLIOT SMITH ON THE STREETS OF CHICAGO (THERE'S 13 MILLION PEOPLE HERE) AND HAVE HIM LIVE AMONG THE FU*KING HOMELESS IN THE COLD!!! ELLIOT SMITH WAS A TALENTED MUSICIAN THAT HAD A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TOO.....I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR HIM "MAN"...I THINK HE'S A COWARD! GET OVER IT!!!!




And I think you're an emotional hippy that is in no way a close and personal friend of Elliot Smith, and I think you're pathetic to defend suicide. You are nothing but a fan of his music, and for you to pretend otherwise is foolish. "It's not brave to live?" Are you serious? Are you stupid?



Bull$hit! BECAUSE HE WAS RICH AND FAMOUS, HE HAD AN ADVANTAGE OVER THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT CAN BARELY AFFORD TO SURVIVE!!! RICH PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE PROBLEMS, BUT AN EVEN BIGGER PROBLEM IS WHEN POOR FAMILIES HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN TAKING THEIR KIDS TO THE DOCTORS AND FEEDING THEM! BETWEEN PAYING THEIR BILLS AND EATING!!! YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FOOL IN THE WORLD IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING MONEY CAN BENEFIT YOU IN ALMOST EVERY AREA OF A PERSON'S LIFE!!!
Hey "man" (how many times are you gonna say "man"?)....you have NO IDEA who that person REALLY was behind closed doors, and you certainly weren't privy to any of his "thoughts and emotions"...."bull$hit man" Yeah,.....you act like you know the guy! THAT"S bullshit! You are a little emotional right now, so I'll forgive your little hissy fit, but you gotta understand that there's so many people out there that have it soooo much worse and yet they find the courage to live. Some go to a shelter, find God, get a job, and become a productive member of society. Even after they finally make it to that point after bein down, they've still got nothing compaired to the rich songwriter guy, so compare the two and you'll clearly see that Elliot Smith was the cowardly psyco! Suicide is a coward's way out, and that's fact not opinion, if you don't like it, kill yourself!!!!

You're like a 8 year old kid looking for attention. This isn't the "What are your opinions on suicide?" thread. It's a thread to share our respects to an amazing musician and you just have to come and pi$$ all over it. What do you want?

Serious, why can't you show some damn respect?? If you don't have anything to say that could help the people who are honestly broken up about it, why don't you just move on? Are you just venting because no one gives a sh!t about your opinions in real life? Your obsessive habit to lurk the forums and force your opinions on people who don't care is getting tired.
Would it have helped if I had phrased it as someone important to you?

Hey, I'll do whatever I want to, and to be honest, your little emotional problems aren't interesting enough to keep me in an arguement. You're a pu$$y, get over it.......