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Old 05-13-2008, 05:49 PM   #51
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the fact that Vandermark didn't make it on there makes me mad.



2 points for making a small funny.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:57 PM   #52
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2 points for making a small funny.

exactly, with all his output, you'd think he'd make at least an amateurs list!
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:08 PM   #53
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And Anthony Braxton!!



25 points....


as in,


true dat.


speaking of da man....i have been reading his composition books....interesting reading but not for the weak of mind or heart....but still very much interesting.



http://www.frogpeak.org/fpartists/fpbraxton.html





i once again highly recommend....




http://tinyurl.com/37hhqg






p.s. should have thought of this point system a long time ago. you grasshoppas are some busy posting bees. would have saved me from breaking off with all the over the top smilies and whatnots.



p.p.s.
youre going to have to keep track of your own points....i keep track of way too much as it is, now.....and your on the honor system.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:21 PM   #54
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exactly, with all his output, you'd think he'd make at least an amateurs list!



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for being one of the few who understands in a somewhat and semi-metaphysical way that character known as satchmo8101.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:22 PM   #55
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WooHoo! 86 Points!
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:43 AM   #56
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I don't think the grasshoppas have ever been in the hot-seat like this before.


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Old 05-14-2008, 10:51 AM   #57
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That's what I imagine boot camp is like.
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:48 PM   #58
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The guy who's given up and is just sitting there crying is a really nice touch in that graphic.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:10 AM   #59
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practical? they have two da bird boxsets which combined make up 18 cds. the three they have mentioned with him as leader total 19cds. wtf? they might as well have said his entire discography....which isnt a bad thing but not for a newbie.

i admit i added in the 'savoy & dial' boxset on my suggestions list....but i point out its the holy grail of da bird....as well as including several single cds with him.


also, they speak about dubious but include the versions released by proper or definitive....which in the u.s. are as dubious as you can get. they may be legal in europe but is in a piece in the new yorker.

with definitive its even more dubious because they straight rip-off new reissues from the u.s. and 're-remaster' and release them. by re-remastering them it saves them from being sued like the thieves they are. they also mention lack of liner notes and authoritative discographies....it was the proper, definitive and other similar companies all under the disconforme umbrella of companies 'which includes definitive' which Schaap was was referring to. they cant rip-off the liner notes and such which come with the u.s. releases.

i have no love for labels but this is the reason more than the illegal downloading which has put a monkey wrench into any releases from anything more than 50 years old.

why spend all that money to do a legal release, which requires approval from all the musicians and or their estates, hunt down all the best tapes of each recording which are available, do a proper mastering, packaging, marketing....

when definitive will just rip a copy no differently than those who rip cds and share them online, "remaster" 'something which is already 20 or 24 bit remastered' and put it in some cheap packaging and have a larger profit margin.

on top of which the musicians or their estates who have been screwed already in the past by labels are now getting screwed even more so when there is a chance for a larger income to be made.


even jsp has been somewhat dubious since john r.t. davies 'who was one of the great engineers' died.




yes, in this day and age it really doesnt matter....but if theyre going to go through the trouble to add in the labels....at least put the ones which doesnt screw the musicians and fans.

each one of those mentioned have a u.s. version available which could have been mentioned. also, as grasshoppa panbient mentioned....this is meant for newbies....no real fan would need a list like that....we all already have a top 100. including so many box sets is just a sure fire way of making sure theyre not bought.

next time mosaic records releases anything older than 50 years....check to see how fast the thieves at definitive will have a version released, afterwards.



one handed satchmo strikes, baby!

finally breaks off a little somethin' somethin'....


now someone pass the single malt on the left hand side....that was tiring as hell....and i still havent even gotten around to the list.


right now, 1958 is the cut-off point. just think of how much great music wont be seeing the light of day or getting a proper remastering because of these thieves and with each year more will be added to that list.





And now Satchmo will give a demonstration of what he was posting about above. This is just one of the labels under the Disconforme umbrella of labels.


http://www.freshsoundrecords.com/rec...record_id=4927



This combines a Blue Note recording with a Verve recording. They've even taken the cover from the Blue Note release for Jazz Advance....which was recorded in 1956.


The Verve recordings from 1957 were reissued as part of this limited edition release back in 2002.











No one involved in any of these recordings will see a single penny from this release.
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