Hello, you are welcome to view the Radio Mute music forum as our guest. If you wish to participate, you will have to register to become one of our members. Radio Mute is an all inclusive music forum which strives to include every topic related to music. If you choose to participate, new forums and features will open up to you; including an option of having 3 songs uploaded and shown in your posts for free, community section with general chat and more.

User Name 
Password

Search 
 at 


Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-23-2008, 07:39 PM   #1
Mr. GooZe
Ain't I'm a dog?
 
Mr. GooZe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pleasant side of hell
Fifties Rock & Roll and Country

So, I'll give it another try...

As a starter, I just like to know your idea on these genres. What do you like about it, what do you hate about it. What artists do you respect, which do you dislike. Once we started discussing this, we can (maybe) move on to more discussions in this area.

What I like about these old songs and artists is the fact that it's such simple music, yet so great. Today's music is too full, imo. What I mean with this is that guitars are so distorted, you don't hear the beauty of the instrument anymore. Drums exist out of 100 pieces, so you hardly can hear the BEAT. (Don't you hate those drummers who kick double bass constantly and hit their cymbals every second? You hardly hear the melody anymore!)

In the good old days, they understood that less is more. Drums were mostly a hi-hat, a snare, a floortom and a single cymbal. A double bass for the gut/heavy bassfeeling, a guitar to play the melody and a voice. It was as easy as that. In country though there were offcourse also instruments such as lapsteel, banjo's and fiddles. Yet the music got never too full!

On stage, people gave a show with what they had: great songs and lots of humor. They really performed! And they had to! No internet, hardly any TV. If you wanted to get somewhere, you HAD to be talented. You had to make people talk about you. You had to hit them in the soul. People really controlled their instrument/voice back then. No hi-tech stuff to edit a false note. Everything was so pure...

I have no idea if you get what I mean. It's easier to explain in dutch, but then I guess hardly anyone would understand...

Artists I like, and I think EVERYONE should check out:

R&R: Elvis (the sun sessions) , Jerry Lee Lewis, Gene Vincent (first three albums with the amazing Cliff Gallup on guitar), Eddie Cochran, Buddy Holly, Cliff Richards (only his first year in music!! 58-59), Link Wray (great guitarplayer!), Janis Martin, Wanda Jackson, and almost ANY early Sun Recording (with artists such as Jack Earls, Mack Self, Charlie Rich, early Orbison, Sonny Burgess, Gene Simmons, Carl Perkins,...). And the most underestimated performer/writer RONNIE SELF. He did bad stuff in late sixties, but in the fifties and early sixties he wrote great songs such as Bopalena, Ain't I'm a dog (one of my fav songs all time!) and he wrote lots of hits for other artists back then.
All the music these guys released was as tight as a virgin's buttcheecks! (sorry, couldn't find another thing that's REALLY tight.) Every single note was right placed. The singin was pure sex. For example, listen to Gene Vincent's hick-up singin. He could sing so low, and the next phrase extremely high, without any sweat. Woman Love is a nice song to know what I mean with the 'sex voice' thing.

Country: Hank Williams (a real bad boy, and maybe the first EMO! songs such as long gone lonesome blues, I'm so lonesome I could cry...hit you right in the soul!), The Louvin Brothers (those harmony's!), Jimmie Rodgers (invented country together with the Carter Family??). In country it's mostly SONGS I prefer, not artists. Lots of the country songs back then where standards/old folk songs, that sound awesome by almost every artist. Check songs such as

* KNOXVILLE GIRL, a murderballad which was originally a 19th century Irish ballad called The Wexford Girl.

* Wild Side of life (aka I didn't know God made Honky Tonk Angels). After a few years there was an answer to this song (can't remember who wrote/originally recorded this) by a lady: It wasn't God who made Honky Tonk Angels.

What I like about this old traditional country, is that they all told a story. Most of these songs can be seen as American History Writing.

There was a guitarplayer, a studio musician who recorded alot of country and rock and roll, with BIG names such as Hank Williams, Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Brenda Lee, Johnny Burnette, and hundreds of others. His name was Grady Martin. He recorded especially in the DECCA studio's. He did some own stuff with his backup band Slew Foot Five, but that stuff is EXTREMELY RARE to find. At least in Europe. Anyone who can score some stuff by them, pls PM me...
He had a very specific guitar sound, and he, together with that Cliff Gallup dude, ment more to today's guitar playing than anyone can ever imagine. No Hendrix, Richards, Clapton or Page without those two. You will probably NOT believe me, but history will show you some day...


Now let me hear what you guys think and feel about all this. Let's start discussing music! Let's really try it for once, without bashing. Turn back time, and realise these times must have been awesome for a musician! Everything was still so new. The roads were wide open. Almost everything still had to be invented. It were golden times!!

(notice I didn't put CASH in my list, for the simple reason that today it seems everybody likes him, but not for the right reasons. If you really like him for his music, you MUST check out more time related stuff. I think anyone agrees his fifties work was among the best!)

Discuss people! DISCUSS!!

Last edited by Mr. GooZe : 02-23-2008 at 07:46 PM.
[offline]   Quote  
Old 02-23-2008, 10:43 PM   #2
Satchmo8101
He...Who Drops Knowledge
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. GooZe
Jimmie Rodgers (invented country together with the Carter Family??). In country it's mostly SONGS I prefer, not artists. Lots of the country songs back then where standards/old folk songs, that sound awesome by almost every artist. Check songs such as






While Jimmie Rodgers is called The Father of Country....he and The Carter Family not only signed but recorded on the same day. Ralph Peer signed both for Victor on August 1, 1927 in Bristol, Tennessee.....which you can say is the day Country Music as a genre "Officially" began. Before that it was known as Old Time Music.

Rodgers would record two songs and the Carters six songs on that day.
__________________
"We can no longer sit back and allow Satchmo infiltration, Satchmo indoctrination, Satchmo subversion and the international Satchmo conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."


I am Satchmo and I approve this message.

Last edited by Satchmo8101 : 02-23-2008 at 10:47 PM.
[offline]   Quote  
Old 02-23-2008, 11:04 PM   #3
Satchmo8101
He...Who Drops Knowledge
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
A lot of people probably have heard Grady Martin without even knowing it.


The version of Train Kept A-Rollin' which put it on the Rock 'N Roll map


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LwCdljsBYQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQrbSf21pAc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PNojx-OCto


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMLQHsJe7ug


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN6qXI5gik8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYALoEhNeEA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTB_BzSFNWE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asG2Drtxg5k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=secLFd9FiYg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT7OeVA0TMI



with Buddy Holly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riM_YXlp0TA




YO!
__________________
"We can no longer sit back and allow Satchmo infiltration, Satchmo indoctrination, Satchmo subversion and the international Satchmo conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."


I am Satchmo and I approve this message.

Last edited by Satchmo8101 : 02-24-2008 at 12:49 AM.
[offline]   Quote  
Old 02-23-2008, 11:16 PM   #4
Satchmo8101
He...Who Drops Knowledge
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. GooZe
The Louvin Brothers (those harmony's!),

* KNOXVILLE GIRL, a murderballad which was originally a 19th century Irish ballad called The Wexford Girl.




Previous knowledge I dropped about the Louvin Brothers in the worst covers thread in regards to their recording Satin is Real.


A lot of people make fun of that cover, however, they're probably the most successful duo act in Country and are in Country Hall of Fame.

That record is actually one of their best. The other would be Tragic Songs of Life. Both are concept recordings....which was rare in Country back then.


The Byrds covered one of their songs on Sweetheart of the Rodeo.

If you're down with harmony and like Country....you won't be disappointed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdQFKWeyKK0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91VNilV2XyQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lLVXKDPCvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHcdyZu0Vqg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAr3t1TzB2Q
__________________
"We can no longer sit back and allow Satchmo infiltration, Satchmo indoctrination, Satchmo subversion and the international Satchmo conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."


I am Satchmo and I approve this message.
[offline]   Quote  
Old 02-23-2008, 11:38 PM   #5
TheZola
A Dying Breed
 
TheZola's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Where no one will find me.
The Zola digs him some great old country. I was introduced to western films and country & western music from my Old Man. My favourite song as a kid was 'Tennessee Flat-Top Box' and I would ask the Skipper to play it every time we went for a drive. I would sing along with the Old Man. Although I discovered most other music on my own and I love plenty of other kinds of music, the only music that stirs very fond memories in me is country & western (except Newfie traditional).

Here is another song that stirs a fond memory. I remember when I first watched this film with the Skipper, I was maybe 8 or 9, and saw this scene. I was floored. It remains still one of my favourite songs of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IpEnsdXwFM

Now what do I love about country & western? Easy. Like Brother Ray, I love the stories. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MAz9...eature=related (I know, the video is strange...)

Some of my favourites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bvxXBRwp5c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyk3AEXvmLg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js-PC3iOxlE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xu71i89xvs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWCWm0-h1rA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkVLpibeNSc
__________________
Down with Lee Myung-bak
[offline]   Quote  
Old 02-24-2008, 12:40 AM   #6
Mr.Soul
grumble grumble
 
Mr.Soul's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Happy Valley
Gotta appreciate a lot of those 50s acts. Hank Williams, Roy Orbison, Jerry Lee Lewis, Buddy Holly, etc... amazing stuff. I'll definitely be checking out some of those other guys you mentioned, Gooze.

I've really been digging The Everly Brothers lately.
__________________
it's a secret to everybody
[offline]   Quote  
Old 02-24-2008, 01:32 AM   #7
Satchmo8101
He...Who Drops Knowledge
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Honky Tonks, Hymns and the Blues
Series Chronicles American Music, from Back Roads to Big City




http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/...nks/index.html
__________________
"We can no longer sit back and allow Satchmo infiltration, Satchmo indoctrination, Satchmo subversion and the international Satchmo conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."


I am Satchmo and I approve this message.
[offline]   Quote  
Old 02-24-2008, 06:24 AM   #8
Mr. GooZe
Ain't I'm a dog?
 
Mr. GooZe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pleasant side of hell
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satchmo8101
A lot of people probably have heard Grady Martin without even knowing it.


I never heard that Jimmy Lloyd song before. Rocket in my pocket. That's really nice! Thanks Satch!!
[offline]   Quote  
Old 02-24-2008, 06:30 AM   #9
Mr. GooZe
Ain't I'm a dog?
 
Mr. GooZe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pleasant side of hell
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheZola
The Zola digs him some great old country. I was introduced to western films and country & western music from my Old Man. My favourite song as a kid was 'Tennessee Flat-Top Box' and I would ask the Skipper to play it every time we went for a drive. I would sing along with the Old Man. Although I discovered most other music on my own and I love plenty of other kinds of music, the only music that stirs very fond memories in me is country & western (except Newfie traditional).

Here is another song that stirs a fond memory. I remember when I first watched this film with the Skipper, I was maybe 8 or 9, and saw this scene. I was floored. It remains still one of my favourite songs of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IpEnsdXwFM



This is very very beautiful! Dean together with Ricky... Did they do more things together? Have to find that movie!

Thanks people. You all gave me hope in RM again!
[offline]   Quote  
Old 02-24-2008, 06:42 AM   #10
Mr. GooZe
Ain't I'm a dog?
 
Mr. GooZe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pleasant side of hell
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Soul
Gotta appreciate a lot of those 50s acts. Hank Williams, Roy Orbison, Jerry Lee Lewis, Buddy Holly, etc... amazing stuff. I'll definitely be checking out some of those other guys you mentioned, Gooze.

I've really been digging The Everly Brothers lately.


How could I forgot to mention them!! Check their recording of POOR JENNY. My favorite Everly Brothers song! I like the guitar in this one. Lyrics are amazing as well!!

Good call Mr. Soul!!

Last edited by Mr. GooZe : 02-24-2008 at 06:51 AM.
[offline]   Quote  
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search






Page generated in 0.24953 seconds with 48 queries [Server Loads: 0.05 : 0.06 : 0.01]