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Old 02-05-2008, 06:39 PM   #1
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purple haze

in your opinion is original by hendrix or cover by winger better? please go into detail why you think this.
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:03 PM   #2
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I have no idea.
who the hell is winger?
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:00 PM   #3
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winger was an up and coming 80s metal band on the tail end of the hair but not quite on the alternative bandwagon with the misfortune of being better known as "that band on the nerdy guy's t-shirt on beavis and butthead". that pretty much killed their career as it was taking off. there was a guy at my high school who had a reb beach signature series ibanez.

i posted the picture of the dude from B&B because he's cooler than the guitar.

as for the cover of purple haze. i think it's horrible. the fact that this thread exists is just because dude is trying to get TR's attention.
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:19 PM   #4
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I thought winger did the original
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:03 PM   #5
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I was planning on a long hiatus....as in, 2009 but just when I thought I was out.....you draw Satchmo back in.



As in, we finally just might have a thread that tops The Beatles vs. Linkin Park thread.



Or as in, hacks that anyone who just learned to play their instruments yesterday could pull off....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3sRzzkiJR4


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DA F***ING MAN!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otmAcK_VKSs
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:08 PM   #6
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Quote:
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winger was an up and coming 80s metal band on the tail end of the hair but not quite on the alternative bandwagon with the misfortune of being better known as "that band on the nerdy guy's t-shirt on beavis and butthead". that pretty much killed their career as it was taking off. there was a guy at my high school who had a reb beach signature series ibanez.

i posted the picture of the dude from B&B because he's cooler than the guitar.

as for the cover of purple haze. i think it's horrible. the fact that this thread exists is just because dude is trying to get TR's attention.



Which brings up....


"Our band was known to musicians, and a lot of musicians showed up to see me play - watching trying to figure out how I'm playing - we were like the 'hair band' Dream Theater -- That is why it's the great irony that we ended up on that geeky guy's shirt on Beavis & Butthead, because Metallica couldn't play what we play, they couldn't do it, they literally - technically couldn't do it. And I'll fucking challenge those chumps to a fight any day of the week, but we could play their music with our hands tied behind our back. And so, I was a little t'd off about that, but in the end, none of that shit matters..."


Kip "Don't Bogart the Kool Aid" Winger
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:37 AM   #7
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Quote:
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in your opinion is original by hendrix or cover by winger better? please go into detail why you think this.

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Old 02-06-2008, 09:25 AM   #8
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Panbient, were you just defending Winger?

Winger were an economically calculated project from day one, similar to Damn Yankees and Bad English. Four guys who knew each other from the Alice Cooper days formed a glam/aor band to make a dollar off it. Then-top-producer Beau Hill procuced them (Kip Winger had worked with him recently on a Fiona album) and both of their first albums went platinum in America. Enter grunge landslide (fall of '92) and the band stopped selling, although their third album (Pull, '93) was pretty much without glossy production and keyboards or monster shredding solos.
Beavis & Butthead approached Winger and asked him if he'd give them his OK for the sissyboy-gimmick on their show. Winger refused, which IMO wasn't very professional. A grown man should always be able to laugh off stuff like that. Besides, other glam groups such as Ratt and Bon Jovi had been rubbished before on The Simpsons and didn't freak out over it.
Another case of unwanted fame by Winger is Kip Winger's presence in the Metallica video "Nothing else matters", in which Lars Ulrich can be seen throwing a dart on a Winger poster and laughing his ass off. A rare to be seen display of self irony by Lars and his band, though unintended. Especially when considering that song's lyrics.

Satchmo, your comment reads as if it was posted in emotional heat, but it is largely contrary to facts.
Technically, as I've posted several times now, Winger could keep up with and smoke any rockband out there that has ever entered a stage. Both guitarist Reb Beach and drummer Rod Morgenstein are originally jazz musicians, Kip Winger isn't that bad on bass either. Maybe Panbient can provide some details from the viewpoint of a musician.
I'm not saying that technical abilities indicate musical quality (if there is such a thing), and Winger never gained a following compareable to the top glam combos let alone Hendrix (one might argue due to the lack of originality), but they're far from being "hacks who just learned to play their instruments".
In fact on his best day, Hendrix would have been likely to stumble through most Winger solos.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:30 AM   #9
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And Hakan, you could at least have taken the time to make this an official poll. We haven't had one on the FSS in awhile.

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Damn! It's not even the FSS. Time flies when you're in a purple haze...
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:42 AM   #10
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Oh one more thing:
Panbient, Winger didn't arrive on the tail end of glam. Their debut was released in 1988 which is widely considered the commercial peak of that musical era. And they weren't really up-and-coming, either. When grunge arrived they were already an established band, but it's unlikely they'd have ever come up with a bigseller of the magnitude of Hysteria or Slippery. They just weren't original enough to set themselves apart from the rest of the scene.
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