purple haze - Page 3

hakan · 02-07-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Team-Rancho

In fact on his best day, Hendrix would have been likely to stumble through most Winger solos.

are you joking?

Satchmo8101 · 02-07-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by czgibson

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. Although we don't agree on many things to do with music, I can see you're no fool, so I'll be sure to check out your posts in future. It's good to hear how things sound to someone on the other side of the fence.

If you had been around when he first showed up and then witnessed the first two of his three years following....you would understand why I almost spit up the Single Malt I was just in the middle of enjoying while reading this.

P.S. Single Malt is a terrible thing to waste!

Satchmo8101 · 02-07-2008, 05:06 PM

P.P.S. Just when did Winger become considered a band made up of some highly technical musicians?

They're as generic as a good many bands from that period.

And who cares if Hendrix wasn't even close to being technically proficient. Too many musicians in every genre you can think of are more interested in being the fastest on their instruments.

John Petrucci is more technically proficient and faster than than Hendrix ever came close to being, but I rather have all four wisdom teeth pulled at one time without any medication than have to listen to Petrucci if I can help it.

Malmsteen, Satriani, Petrucci, Vai and their ilk have as much soul as a corpse.

And anyone who has been around here long enough knows what will follow when this subject comes up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uea8k5sJ5qg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evTTHS9hwvU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pJ1ccnC1GI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs

Apparently, Malmsteen has had this pulled from youtube.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...29648939980168

panbient · 02-07-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hakan

are you joking?

i really think rancho is accurate in his statement that hendrix would have had a hard time getting through a winger solo.

as revolutionary as he was, hendrix wasn't a shredder, his leads aren't really complicated, it's pretty much straight ahead pentatonic blues. from the technique standpoint it's his rhythmic style that really sets him apart from most guitar players. from the style standpoint it's how he interacted with the instrument that set him apart.

maybe if hendrix had lived he would have been able to play circles around the late 80s shredders, it's all up to speculation. but based on his catalog and comments he made about terry kath i think it's entirely accurate to say hendrix would have flubbed winger solos.

as for the commercial aspect of the band, knowing that reb beach was more upset about the sales of his signature guitar than ibanez seems indicative that he was in it for the benjamins more than the music.

and while lenny kravitz has spent his entire career trying to mooch hendrix's style, that's really all he's accomplished - to try.

Roivas · 02-07-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Team-Rancho

despite their strange musical preferences, hehe.

I don't appreciate that.

Team-Rancho · 02-07-2008, 05:53 PM

I'm sorry Roivas. You get to pick the music on our Mexico trip. OK?

Team-Rancho · 02-07-2008, 06:05 PM

@Hakan:
I never said Winger's version was better, I said I liked it better.

@Satchmo:
I was told (by someone who listens primarily to such players and also plays like that himself) that a certain Paul Gilbert burns Petrucci, Vai and everybody else in terms of speed and technique. When feeling curious one day you might wanna check the first Racer X album ("Street Lethal"). Then you'll really want all your wisdom teeth get pulled at once, hehe. On the sideline, Gilbert was also in a moneymaker group which consisted of talented players, Mister Big.

@CZGibson:
Soulfulness also seems to be subject to interpretation. I really dig George Lynch. This goes so far that I even downloaded his instructional video and watch it over and over, although I don't play guitar myself. CUWABUNGA SHREDDING POWERRRR!!!

Satchmo8101 · 02-07-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by panbient

as revolutionary as he was, hendrix wasn't a shredder, his leads aren't really complicated, it's pretty much straight ahead pentatonic blues. from the technique standpoint it's his rhythmic style that really sets him apart from most guitar players. from the style standpoint it's how he interacted with the instrument that set him apart.

Because DA F***KING MAN was OLD SCHOOL. As in, his influences were DA BLUES and JAZZ. Being the fastest or most technical isn't as important as in telling a story and dropping universal knowledge.

Satchmo8101 · 02-07-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by czgibson

You were there, Satchmo? Wow - tell us more! How many sets did you see that night at the Fillmore?

T-R: I take your point about mature behaviour, but the whole thread seems to be geared towards a straight comparison between Winger and Hendrix, and we can agree that that's pretty laughable, I hope.

I also think you overestimate Lenny Kravitz' guitar playing abilities by several light years, but that's another issue.

We would see him in all 4 sets over the two nights he dropped universal knowledge.

So, next time you break out out either one of these....

You can tell your friends and/or females/males (depending on your preference.....not that I am saying anything about either)....that you semi-kinda-know this almost 109-year-old guy who was there.

Team-Rancho · 02-08-2008, 04:22 AM

When did he drop knowledge? If he at least had made some instructional video at some point. But he just left behind his music with everybody else wondering how to play it properly, and nobody really managed to do so.