Winger weren't the finest glam band out there, and they sure aren't my favourites. It's true that they formed just to make a dollar off the movement and disbanded as soon as it wasn't profitable anymore. The Beavis & Butthead thing didn't help, either.
However from the technical perspective, Winger were/are far superior to just about any (what you call) "metalhead" band. Not that this would indicate the actual 'quality' of their music. Actually I find Reb Beach's soloing to be a perfect example how to wreck songs by overshredding. Still IMO they had their moments.

As far as "poseurs vs metal-heads" goes, the so called "metalheads" were just a handful of bands which could barely generate enough interest to survive in some basements. Until Metallica's Black Album there were about five or six albums of that entire scene which went gold in the 80s. The main focus clearly was on the glam side, not just in rock but in all of (modern) music. It's safe to say that until "EEEEXIT LIIIITE" the public wasn't even aware that there was actually metal other than glam.

Furthermore, (in Europe anyway) the premium anti-glam band of the "metalhead"-scene are Manowar. Not sure if you really wanna be associated with them.


And closing, I'd just like to point out that I also listen to quite a bit of what you label "metalhead" music. Megadeth, Exodus, Testament, Accept, Metallica, Manowar and even one song by Slayer. Maybe even more, but that was all I could think of. Sometimes their KILL/FIGHT/DESTROY!!! lyrics are a bit childish, but I guess they're not meant that seriously and apart from that they sometimes really have some more intelligent or diverse lyrics too, something which is practically never to be found anywhere in all glam.


Still there's nothin' like a good ol' fashiond poseur-rock song with a big drums, heavy keyboards and more chorus on the guitars than Giorgio Moroder could handle!

Didn't Winger release an album last year?

In 2006, yes. Haven't checked it out though.

Here ya go, Glammy. The album art was done by Ethan Van Sciver, so I guess it's not completely lame.

"Some" antagonism? Thankfully I got out of high school just before the final wave of Aquanet-teased hair gods littered Headbangers Ball. In other words, I didn't get into a "Metallica vs Warrant" discussion (such discussions usually evolved into calling any band I liked a bunch of Satan worshippers, and often involed Motley Crue and/or Dokken) and I didn't have to deal with Winger, the poseur's poseur, taking up a video slot that should have gone to a real metal band, until a time when such matters bothered me less. But yeah...we definitiely didn't get along

The way the exposure swung so quickly really jaded me to mainstream music to the point where I was igoring it amost completely when in my teens. That didn't go over well with the ladies when I moved to from the city to suburbia/mallville at the age of 17, fresh out of high school with very little understanding of Top 40 (hair metal ballads are some of the worst songs theoretically possible ).

As I look back on those bands, it's really hard to be particularly mad at them. They were what they were, and they got lucky because better bands had the industry looking for a certain direction. If you had long hair and a crunchy guitar sound, you were "metal" enough for them, and if your hair had tons of mousse in it and the music was easy enough for musically ignorant people to digest, you had a place on MTV if you wanted it. Seeing as all those bands wanted to do was play some rock and roll for a living, who's not going to take that offer? Some of the music wasn't bad (I liked early Ratt, which to me sounded more like updated Aerosmtih than metal) but most of it was fairly forgettable unless there were hot girls in the video. Winger, on the other hand....

They were considered a posuer band in my high school, actually. That band had some of the most hilarious lyrics and I still have a couple of their old MP3's around to give me an occasional laugh - "Gloves of Metal" and "Kill With Power" (DIE DIE ).

These days they are actually some venerable and respected band, I guess. If you hang around long enough, it happens.

Well I can imagine that when you're not too fond of a specific style of music and it's omnipresent not only in the media, but also on your schoolyard it might just tick you off, hehe.
Of course I always saw/experienced glam in a different way. There were a total of two guys (and no girls BTW) in my entire class who listened to metal (ANY metal) or even rock. There was no hint of glam anywhere, for me it was like discovering a new (or better 'old') solar system. It was even more exciting because I really loved the music, too. I never had to deal with glam-posers who just dressed up like bands or listened to them just because they were in the charts. There were other posers though, hehe.
Musically I don't like Winger that much either, but I was told by musicians that especially Winger were technically a highly capable band. I even heard that two of them were actually originally jazz-musicians. LOL, come to think of it! BTW I think the same is true about that early Megadeth guitarist (forgot the name).
Glam power ballads rule. But with some bands it really got a bit too much, especially Winger and Bad English. I hardly remember any Bad English song that wasn't a ballad. Those were obvious attempts to break the charts. Still, glam power ballads rule. Best power ballads are from Roxette though, IMO anyway.
Early Ratt, hm. Everybody praises Cellar, I don't like it that much. My fav album is Detonator, but that's just me.
And it's not true that every band had their place on MTV if they only wanted it. It was actually much harder back then to get to the MTV-level. For instance it took bands like Vixen or Cinderrella over half the decade just to score a record deal. Poison had to finance the production of their first album themselves (and through their parents, LOL) and GnR were dismissed by several major labels and considered non-profitable. Hadn't Slippery had the impact it did, Bon Jovi would've gotten dropped after three albums. And those were big-sellers, for each of these there's probably another 100 others who never made it anywhere near a deal although they sure tried hard.

And what kind of nonsense term is that anyway, 'poseur' band? Like Metallica weren't posers. They sung about going on killing sprees, were those lyrics about their free time when they weren't working at the gas station? To me that scene comes over like a bunch of jealous guys with no (girl-)friends. Boohooohoo let's slap those posers on our albums, as if anyone cared. And that pseudo Satan-worshipping is just ridiculous. Still, tose guys had some good music, too.

Manowar a repected band? I like some of their songs and Kings of Metal is a great riff, but the lyrics remain idiotic. If even it was meant as a joke, but these guys are totally stiff. And Winger (just like White Lion BTW) could burn them any given day.

if winger was technically a highly capable band why they did realy bad jimi hendrix cover of purple haze?

Their version is just a very different interpretation of the original. Whether you like it or not has little to do with their musical abilities.

okey. do you prefer original or cover more?