It's likely true I wouldn't like that album much without their talents, especially considering who penned "Take Five."

I just need to stop calling Joe "Tom" in random conversations ...I kick myself in the head every time I do and scream BURN BURN YES YOU'RE GONNA BURN

1. He ended up hating it so much that he would give away the royalties (and that was a whole lot of money back then and ever since) for it, afterwards.


2. No comment.

linkin park? are you kidding me? they dont have an ounce of cses talent. i still dont think youve really said why you dont like them other than they are mainstream.

ok so they didnt reinvent the freaking wheel but they know how to write really good songs. and no theyre not as raw as bands like soundgarden but thats just not who they are. you cant criticise a band for not being like some other bands you have to look at what theyre trying to do. all they want to do is write catchy emotional songs. they dont predend to be anything they arent, like linkin park.

i dare anyone to seriously listen to their stuff and think of another band from the 90s who can write better melodies and choruses and pop songs than cs. ok oasis might be tied. but still.

i looked at your posts and i guess you like a lot of jazz or something, well its a lot harder to write a melody that grabs millions of people than to endlessly wank away on a saxophone for no reason, not making anything that anyone will remember after they hear it.

1995

when you hear real music, after it's over, it's gone, in the air. you can never capture it again.


to write a melody that grabs millions simply means you've successfully hit the lowest common denominator. you've managed to craft something so bland and inoffensive that the millions of passive music fans out there don't mind hearing as part of the background soundtrack to their lives. is a band really saying anything when everyone knows all the twists and turns from the first line of the first verse? is it really anything more than the aural equivalent to a paint by numbers print?

well thats pretty useless. sorry but most music can be played again its either written down or recorded or transcibed. i dont know what magical music you listen to that no one can copy.

so all music should try to offend people? wow. i can tell that any band you try to be in will do real well. lets just make noise that no one likes so were cool and edgy. sorry, id rather have something that makes me feel something and that i actually enjoy listening to.

and isnt the music you like the soundtrack to your life? or do you just sit around talking about weird music thats so important that you just like the idea of it and not the actual music itself?

and whats the problem with melody? its one of the basic elements of music for crying out loud, and most bands couldnt write a good melody to save their lives. i guess its more of a lost art than i thought.

i guess you must like rap then.

You seriously have no idea what you are talking about. It isn't about what you like, or what panbient, or Satchmo, or any of us like. It's that you seem lost in the conversation.

If you think jazz is endlessly wanking on a saxophone, you weren't paying attention any of the times you've been exposed to it or you've heard some really shitty jazz - which does exist. John Coltrane, as a singular example, wrote more interesting and memorable music on the fly than what a number of these bands you like (and many bands I like as well) create given a number of months. Not liking jazz is not the same thing as not being able to understand its appeal.

On the second point, panbient was not talking about melody in general, but generic melodies. Generic, as in the stuff written for Britney Spears and Destiny's Child that can double as a jingle for a soft drink ad so that label execs can double their profits. Bands who specialize in this sort of thing generally don't get high praise in a forum called RADIOMUTE. Not liking generic melodies is not the same thing as liking rap (or not liking it, for that matter). That last sentence makes no sense whatsoever.