Here are some of the best rappers from the midwest:

Legit Ballaz (Artillery) Twista/Todd Nitty

Twista (tongue twista)

Crucial Conflict

Speed Knott Mobstaz

Do or Die

Snypaz

DramaWard (PSYCHO DRAMA)

Cap-1

TripleDarkness

Take a listen and drop a post of what you think.

I'm always so lost within all the hype on where a rapper is from.

I only know one rapper on your list and that is Twista who I think is extremely overrated. His raps are OK but because he has that gimmick of talking fast people think he is awesome.

J Dilla is from Detroit and if you have heard his stuff you know the skill, R.I.P.

Slum Village, in part with J. Dilla, is from Detroit too.

Hi-tek is from Ohio and he is one awesome DJ, and drops a nice verse on The Blast.

staley-cobain mentioned Binary Star from Michigan who I have grown to enjoy.

Common is from Chicago and he is the man.

Eminem.

Bone Thugs N Harmony

Kanye West

Common is soft... it's good but I would consider him hip/hop

Twista has good lyrics. Check out his older stuff like adrenaline rush. Talking fast is the whole point of rapping

The only reason I wanted to put Chicago under the spotlight is because I read about a lot of cal, tex, and NY rappers.

Yeah thats true, East West and the South is always talked about.

I don't agree, I think it is what your saying that is the whole point of rapping. Faster doesn't always mean better, its more about how your style works with the beat. A good rapper could switch it up, knowing when to get going as fast as they can, not just going nuts every chance they get.

Again with this difference between hip-hop and rap, define hip-hop and define rap.

Definitly agree with that. Rapping is all about what comes out of your mouth and how well that goes along with the beat(s).

Here is the lyrics to one of my favorite songs of his.

pullin up and bailin out like we're carsick, I'm ready to start shit
start up buryin some heads like an ostrich
and unload the whole cartridge and throw the shells out the garbage
the hardest of motherfuckers could never achieve what I've accomplished
Yungbuck's my accomplice
Located his existance with my sixth sense like a compass
and starting on a journey established to stop this
rushin up the hearts of the niggaz to get em charged
what's the real reason?
All you haters try to murder me so now it's kill season
And even though I'm still bleedin
I'm comin after you cause I'm still breathin
And y'all can't trace me
I bury my victims in the wall like gacey too lyrical
and since its nipple my umbilical these flows is critical
This music is miracle like I'm biblical
Killin like I'm nuttier than buddy love
and still wouldn't leave a bloody glove and start the truck up
and speed the fuck up getaway smokin this blunt
Dump the adrenaline eruptin my viens I'm pumped up

Imagine rapping about this and then doing it fast. The man has it and recently turned sofy when came out and did some of the commercial songs with Kanye West.

Thats an alright verse, I wouldn't mind it as a guest to a song but its nothing amazing.

You ever heard Common - I Used to love H.E.R. ? Thats a quality song, or one of my personal favorites Time Travelin'



If you want something a little harder Eminem has cranked out better verses then that in the past few years, I guess hes not from Chicago but still:

Cause we gon' bring it to anybody who want it
You want it? You gon' get it
name 'em we gon' hit 'em chew 'em up and spit 'em out {*hoch spit*}
Too much venom and if you roll with 'em
we gon' fuck you up with 'em
I got to much momentum moving in my direction to lose
My shoes will explode as soon as you go to step to them (Broom)
You know how we do it when we do how we do it when we come through
G-Unit, D-1-2 and Obie we all move like assassins
Ski mask and gloves consider this as a warning
Disaster comes faster than you can react to it, just ask Muggs
But we are fizast, fuck your little bitch ass up
We are not killers, my vato will have you shot though
Drag through the barrio and fucked like Kim Osario
Little sorry hoe ass, go ask B-Real
We burn Source covers like fuckin Cypress Hill
Did in the 90's when you was in diapers still
Shady Records you better believe the hype is real
This is no joke, I don't smoke
But I toke enough secondhand to make my fucking P.O. choke
I'm an OG, your fucking with a G.I. Joe
Bia Bia, mia mio a vida loco
I'm a pyscho Mariah ain't got shit on me
When I retire I'll be spittin baby food on people
A tent siged on her ranch huddle up next to her
with Hello Kitty slippers on, humpin her legs
You ever had your cap peeled back or your shit pushed in
I put my blade in you like a fuckin pin cushion
slice your ear clear off, Smirnoff and Hen-dawg
I'll show you to kill a fucking man like Sen Dog
Nobody told you that I'm loco ese?
I lack every sane chemical in my membrane
I'm Slim Shay... D and the 'D' is for deez nuts
And you can get each one for free so feast up
I pee in a cup for three months
I'm having an E party for Easter please come

Yea, I like common he is very good.

Eminem, I am not so sure about. The lyrics in his song are weak he raps about the same poo poo that every other commercial rapper talks about, bla bla we waiting on our side of town, thats weak. I am can you say biter (mobb deep) Don't get me wrong Eminem is one of my fav. rappers but he is no where near Twista they can't be compared.

Now, I believe that one of the all time best lyricist, with Pac included here is a little somthing that they both put together.



[Notorious B.I.G.]
"One two, one two, gonna do it like this
WHERE BROOKLYN AT, WHERE BROOKLYN AT
WHERE BROOKLYN AT, WHERE BROOKLYN AT
We gonna do it like this
Anytime you're ready, check it

I got seven Mack 11's, about eight 38's
Nine 9's, ten mack tens, the shits never ends
You can't touch my riches
Even if you had MC Hammer and them 357 bitches
Biggie Smalls; the millionare, the mansion, the yacht
The two weed spots, the two hot glocks
That's how I got the weed spot
I shot dread in the head, took the bread and the lamb spread
Little Gotti got the shotty to your body
So don't resist, or you might miss Christmas
I tote guns, I make number runs
I give mc's the runs drippin
when I throw my clip in the AK, I slay from far away
Everybody hit the D-E-C-K
My slow flow's remarkable, peace to Matteo
Now we smoke weed like Tony Montana sniffed the yeyo
That's crazy blunts, mad L's
My voice excels from the avenue to jail cells
Oh my God, I'm droppin shit like a pigeon
I hope you're listenin, smackin babies at they christening

[Tupac] Motherfuckin Biggie Smalls!
[Kane] What you gonna do with it Tupac?

[Tupac]
Yeah where the motherfuckin thugs at?
Throw your motherfuckin middle finger
We gonna do this shit like this
I thank the Lord for my many blessings, never stressin
Keep a vest for protection, from the barrel of a Smith & Wesson
And all my niggaz in the pen, here we go again
Ain't nuttin separatin us from a mack-10
Born in the ghetto as a hustler, told ya
A straight soldier, buckin at the bustaz
No matter how you try, niggaz never die
We just retaliate with hate, then we multiply
You see me strikin down the block, hittin corners
Mobbin like a motherfucker, livin like I - wanna
And ain't no stoppin at the red lights, I'm sideways
Thug Life motherfucker crime, pays!
Let the cops put they lights on, chase me nigga
Zig zaggin through the freeway, race me nigga
In a high speed chase with the law
The realest motherfucker that you ever saw"

Now listen to is with a beat and that sh!t will make you want to hit rewind. Obiously they are some of the best all time rappers and they are the first names to come out of someones mouth, but The WU, has great lyrics and so does Psycho Drama.

Oh no I've started a verse to verse competiton!

Well I think there were a few years in my life that I heard that live at the garden freestyle (Hot 97 and especially Funk Flex played it too much) on a weekly basis. I know biggies short but sweet verse by heart (its a sing along where I'm from) and although Pac's is good, it is near impossible to follow something like that up; Biggie kills it.

Have you heard Biggie and Mister Cee The Wickedest?

I can go on and on about Biggie all day, he is my all time favorite rapper.


Twista better then Eminem?

I'm far from an Eminem fan boy, I think hes over rated, but no doubt he is still very good. For starters he has taken a big plunge recently but if you go back to his earlier stuff its incredible.

I hope you have heard Dead Wrong, the Eminem version.

Your saying that Eminem has tired themes in his music but Twista doesn't? I don't know this is just wrong to say. If you like his style or not is one thing, but the man has done a good job at keeping things different in the tired world of commercial rap. His freestyling is excellent too.

I know there is a track floating around which is a DJ, I'm told to be Dre, switching up the beat like every 20 or 30 seconds and Eminem is freestyling. Eminem stays on top of it and drops some excellent lines, Twista would sink in a situation like that.

Nice, I don't listen to it much but I have an appreciation for killer lyrics (and biggie blew it up with that one).

No doubt about it Eminem is good @ what he does but there is no competition if had the both of those rappers @ there prime. Honestly most of Twistas new stuff is commercial, but the stuff he wrote and recorded back in 92-96 he killed it.

Maybe I just don't know enough Twista but my impression on him was that he's become a fast paced Ja Rule just in the fact I always see him (hear him) with another R&B singer.

I think Chamillionaire has made it a point to "try" and not be labeled a gimmick rapper. I'm not sure Twista has.