The Best of the Punk - Page 3

tanjello · 05-22-2007, 11:16 PM

I think the same could be said about many music genres though. Yeah punk music is very divided between this and that genre and yep people into punk are concerned about what is real punk and what not.

Late 80's I was very much into metal. Thrash, death and black metal, not glam metal because that was not "real metal". The same sort of stereotypes and genre bashing that happens in punk also happens in metal.

It also happens in hip hop, dance music, country music and Jazz.

I am actually pleased that there has been some activity in the punk forum in the last week because it has been fucking dead for over a year. For us that have been here for years, yes we have heard it all before but I don't think that should mean that newer uses shouldn't be allowed to discuss such things.

Satchmo8101 · 05-23-2007, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by panbient

how about we make a subgenre for every 4 punk bands out there. as of right freaking now there is absolutely no subgenre of punk that needs to ever have more than 4 bands in it. ever. some really awesome bands like blink 182 and well they're all over the place. man that song they had with the piano. killer man.

actually. i just REALLY want to know why the subgenres matter? really. WHY????

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tanjello · 05-23-2007, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by panbient

how about we make a subgenre for every 4 punk bands out there. as of right freaking now there is absolutely no subgenre of punk that needs to ever have more than 4 bands in it. ever. some really awesome bands like blink 182 and well they're all over the place. man that song they had with the piano. killer man.

actually. i just REALLY want to know why the subgenres matter? really. WHY????

Sorry to point out the obvious but bands that fall within the punk rock umbrella do actually sound different and play different styles of punk rock. Bands are grouped into different genres to help people decide what bands to investigate.
If I am about to buy a punk cd I would like to know before I buy it if it is going to at least be in the ball park of what style of punk I like. Same with going to see a show.

Like I was saying before though I don't know why this subgenre rage is pointed at punk. Look at dance music: house, tech house, deep house, techno, Nu Breaks, Minimal house, Hard house, Drum and Bass, Prog House, Prog Tech, Prog Breaks, Tearout, electro house, electro breaks,Gabba, Trance, Psy-Trance, funky house I could keep going and going

Gluesniffer 007 · 05-23-2007, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by panbient

WHY DO SUBGENRES MATTER?

SERIOUSLY WHY THE FUCK DO THEY MATTER SO FUCKING MUCH TO YOU GODDAMNED "punks"?

everywhere i look there's always a bunch of stereotypical punks going on and on about how they're fucking real and fucking original and absolutely 'not' conforming to society's wishes by looking like a goddamned magazine cutout from 20 fucking years ago. on the bus, at work, on the street, in the mall, at the grocery store, everywhere.

it seems like every fucking punk i run into is so up their own ass and too busy circle jerking their sex pistol to make sure they're only listening to the 'good', 'real' punk to notice the fact that they ARE the punks they hate. the guy at the record store doesn't think you're cooler for buying some obscure descendents album. they don't care that 90% of the joy division sales of the last few years are directly related to the fact that interpol sounded EXACTLY like them and that all the emo fucks were whining about stabbing. themselves. in the neck.

Maybe you got a little carried away there.
Wanting to know what genres of punk are out there does not mean that you're only going to be willing to listen to the "real" ones. Some people just want to learn a thing or two. And given the amount of reactions from usual posters, it appears that knowing about subgenres is pretty common.

Satchmo8101 · 05-23-2007, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sos814

Sorry to ask this dumb question.
Does political-punk count for a style of punk music?

Sorry, I missed this.

Did you mean Anarchist Punk bands like The Crass, or a subgenre which was called Political Punk?

Just Blaze · 05-23-2007, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by panbient

the issue with making threads sticky is that it doesn't detract from new threads. notice how there are currently 5 basically 'best of punk rock' threads on the front page of the punk section. and combining threads is a hassle that generally results in failure any time i've tried. besides, it's futile to go through the hassle of mashing together all the best ofs into one sticky that will just get ignored for another 'best of' thread because the sticky might not have enough 'real' punk in it or too much 'real' punk, or some other bullshit excuse some wanker wants to use to validate yet another repeat thread.

Well it doesn't have to be mashing a bunch of old threads together, how about a new thread? End it once and for all and title it "The best, essential, true punk rock once must have heard in order to be a punk" or something to that effect.

Just Blaze · 05-23-2007, 07:37 AM

For the most part I agree with panbient, but like Tanjello said the classifying happens in every genre. I think it is over done and out of control. It does help when you want to know the basic sound but I don't think it needs to be SO specific.

A good band is good no matter how specific the classifications get and if the suggestion comes from someone you trust you'll probably enjoy it.

For the realness of punk, I think this Banksy quote relates:

"I wanna be a non-conformist just like everyone else"

pooch guy · 05-23-2007, 08:13 AM

This thread makes me want to go listen to metal all day, baby.

tanjello · 05-23-2007, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pooch guy

This thread makes me want to go listen to metal all day, baby.

thrash,black,white,heavy,speed,viking,progressive, metalcore,death,false or grindcore??

Gluesniffer 007 · 05-23-2007, 10:04 AM

Depends on what's realest.

Can't we have an admin to determine this so that none of us have to take the risk to appear uncool?