Imus VS Hip Hop - Page 2

T Bogus · 05-04-2007, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Satchmo8101

Speaking of my man Chuck D....did you ever see this.

http://www.publicenemy.com/index.php?page=page3&item=74

Pretty deep...

"Could this be some twice reversed psychology by the puppet masters of social order, to have corporations using the sake of making money as a front to have black faces steer black youth into accepting inferiority while ushering in the aura of white supremacy all over again?"

You know... I have no clue. I think he poses an interesting perspective. I guess he should have a better idea about what goes on behind closed doors... but I can only guess.

Is this "dumbassification" (as Chuck calls it) a well thought out elitist plan? It certainly has effects on people, thats for sure. Will it get worse?

On the other hand, would censorship play right into the hands of the same corrupt puppet-masters?

T Bogus · 05-04-2007, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Satchmo8101

"The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent. "

I see the rationale in that quote.

Eva Doll · 05-05-2007, 01:00 AM

I love a good debate! First off if you watched that episode of Oparah it was TOTALLY a lynchmob. Right wrong or indifferent she chose the wrong people to Lynch. Second I was wrong "rap" needs to be cleaned up not Hip Hop. We all have free will but have you heard some of the crap on the radio or bumping in the clubs. I dont care about the content cuz Chuck d, Paris and Krs One used profanity but it was to emphasize the point. This music uses profanity cuz they never learned how to put bars together.

Firdaus_3 · 05-05-2007, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Satchmo8101

When it comes to Censorship....I am down with Old School Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.....

aka

"The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent. "

Great quote from one of the most quotable of them all - Justice Holmes!

Another quote of Justice Holmes in respect of the "clear and present danger" test, setting out the requirement of subjective intent on the part of the person making the expression:-

"It is only the present danger of an immediate evil and an intent to bring it about that warrants Congress in setting a limit to the expression of opinion."

Just Blaze · 05-07-2007, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Eva Doll

Hip Hop needs to clean up its act but the point I was making is that the battle can be fought on its own and not as a media decoy to Don Imus.

Fair enough, but you need something to start with and draw attention to the fact if anything is going to get done.

T Bogus,

OK you are right, it does not need to since I completely agree with you about people being able to create anything they want. And like you suggested, changing what is played at certain times on the big stations should be the solution.

Kids should be the only ones that should have their music censored in anyway and this should be the parents job.