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03-23-2007, 06:08 AM
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You know that if someone finally stepped up and nominated him, they'd make an exception.
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Just like Mother Teresa?
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03-23-2007, 02:30 PM
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Then why aren't Def Leppard in?
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03-23-2007, 06:14 PM
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Then why aren't Def Leppard in?
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Its not only based on record sales...the band has to have made a positive impact on music in general
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03-24-2007, 01:05 AM
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I'm sure Def Leppard will make it in at some point.
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03-24-2007, 01:51 AM
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Its not only based on record sales...the band has to have made a positive impact on music in general
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They have a kinda funny definition of positive...keep in mind, they came pretty close to bringing in Chic.
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03-24-2007, 03:43 AM
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Now, I do believe that this year's inductees were mostly "deserving" (I may regret saying that...) but, like Jazz mentioned, when a band like Chic is even considered, something smells funny.
It's obvious - to me anyway, and I think to several of my cats here at RM - that the HOF, despite its great tendancies in sucking - has to begin increasing its induction of acts not considered "rock & roll".
This year we saw Grandmaster Flash inducted. Not "rock & roll".
2006 - Miles Davis. Not "rock & roll".
2005 - Buddy Guy. Not "rock & roll".
2002 - Isaac Hayes. Not "rock & roll".
2001 - Michael Jackson. Solomon Burke. Not "rock & roll".
2000 - Earth, Wind & Fire. James Taylor. The Moonglows. *Early Influence - Billie Holiday. Nat King Cole. Not "rock & roll".
1999 - Curtis Mayfield. *Early Influence - Charles Brown. Not "rock & roll".
1998 - *Early Influence - Jelly Roll Morton. Not "rock & roll".
The Bee Gees, The Jackson Five, Mahalia Jackson, Gladys Knight & The Pips, Bob Marley, Willie Dixon, Etta James, Ruth Brown, Dinah Washington, Bobby Bland, Booker T & The MGs, Elmore James, Professor Longhair, John Lee Hooker, LaVern Baker, Howlin' Wolf, Louis Armstrong, Ma Rainey, Otis Redding, Stevie Wonder, Bessie Smith, The Supremes, Lead Belly, Woody Guthrie, Aretha Franklin, BB King, Big Joe Turner, Marvin Gaye, Muddy Waters, Smokey Robinson, Hank Williams, Louis Jordan, T-Bone Walker, James Brown, Ray Charles, Same Cooke, Robert Johnson, among others who are not "rock & roll" have all been inducted.
This being the case - so many "non-rock & roll" performers having been inducted - there are dozens of more deserving artists who must be inducted in order to salvage the reputation of the HOF (if it ever had one). What about Skip James, Big Mama Thornton, Charlie Mingus, Blind Willie Johnson, James P Johnson, Charley Patton, Stan Getz, Champion Jack Dupree, Mississippi John Hurt, Count (FUCKING) Basie(!), Thelonious (FUCKING) Monk, Lighnin' Hopkins, Louis Prima, Charlie Parker, Tampa Red, Art (FUCKING) Tatum, Duke (FUCKING) Ellington, Pete Johnson, John Coltrane, Coleman Hawkins, Bill Withers, Frank (FUCKING) Sinatra. And that's just off the top of my head. That's enough "non-rock & roll" to keep the HOF going for the next ten or twelve years.
And for some "rock & roll" inductees how about The Stooges (helloooo?), T.Rex, The Sonics, Tom Waits, and so on. There are plenty of acts that can be inducted without having to nominate such ridiculous crap as Chic and - sorry, Rancho - Def Leppard.
And Johnny Otis was inducted in '94 as a "Non-performer"? What the fuck is that!?
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03-24-2007, 05:03 AM
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Def Leppard pretty much DEFINED RnR for almost a decade, how ridiculous is that?
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03-24-2007, 11:55 AM
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Def Leppard pretty much DEFINED RnR for almost a decade, how ridiculous is that?
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it's pretty ridiculous hehe
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03-29-2007, 09:54 AM
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Def Leppard pretty much DEFINED RnR for almost a decade, how ridiculous is that?
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I guess my math is a little different here, but considering they only had two albums of note, one of which came out 1983 and the other in 1987, I'm having a hard time getting up to this "decade." Now Pyromania had plenty of rock moments mixed in with auditions for America's Top 10 appearances, but there was no such fun to be had in the latter album. That was processed pop from start to finish. By my math, at best, they defined rock and roll for about a year or so as Pyromania churned out hit singles.
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They have a kinda funny definition of positive...keep in mind, they came pretty close to bringing in Chic.
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I would have been fine with them in, guess I'm alone there  One thing to remember was that Chic influenced actual rock artists. Of course then there was "clams on the half-shell, and roller skates, roller skates..."  
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03-29-2007, 12:35 PM
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