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03-23-2007, 10:01 AM
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I liked it a lot at first but it got old really fast. I don't think it has longterm playability.
I guess what I mean by path of the strokes is:
1st album classic
2nd album more of the same
3rd this is kind of hard to describe. Its like they tried to add to their sound when that wasn't really needed.
I am curious what Interpol is gonna come up with, but like I said I am not setting my expectations high so I can feel a disappointment. I'd rather be cynical, enjoy the surprise of a classic but also be able to sit there and say I told you so when it sucks. I feel like some of these young bands get so overwhelmed with the fame and expectations that come when a masterpiece is created (debut or not) that they end up choking or later releases (and you will know us is by our trail of dead is another good example of my idea and Radiohead is a great example of a band that did the opposite). Not wanting to dabble too far away from that sound that got them the praise, instead seeing subtle changes that can tweak it for the better. The result is just tired and boring, not refreshing and interesting. But shit, I would love for Interpol to prove me wrong.
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03-23-2007, 10:28 AM
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I would agree that if Interpol were to release another album of much of the same music as their previous two would be enjoyable but disasterous, but I was delighted to see the Strokes even trying something new at all. I think that the experience of changing their sound will lead to a lot more maturity.
Frankly, I find it hard not to agree with you as far as most music is concerned. Seriously, look at even the bands we would call classic now. Pink Floyd released Piper, Barrett left the band, they released Saucerful which was attempting to be similar to Piper (not that I'm saying it was), then they floundered a bit with good-but-not-great Ummagumma and hit their shine with Meddle and then later on DSOTM. With a movie soundtrack or two thrown in there for good measure.
You may not have liked the new Strokes for an extended period, but to say that it's not a good album for the band would be erroneous. It could be a stepping stone to a newer, more mature Strokes.
Equally, I don't expect anything of bands usually, so if Interpol ends up trying something new I'll be happy even if I don't really like it much, it may lead to something ingenious that I'll like MORE than TOTBL.
I'm not saying that both of these bands, or either of them, will end up as good/popular as Pink Floyd, just the idea is the same. I'm looking forward to seeing Interpol and The Strokes flounder, they'll come out better in the end if they stay together, and I'll see some real shine from them in the future.
As far as Radiohead goes, however, I was never a big fan of Pablo Honey, but they did great up until Amnesiac. I think any band that releases a B-Sides to break up a long interim between two great albums (yes, I do believe that Kid A and Hail To The Thief were great albums) is bound to mess up. A B-Sides should never break an interim, I firmly believe it should come out as a companion to an album. System Of A Down messed this up as well. Steal This Album! was a severe disappointment.
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03-23-2007, 10:34 AM
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Johnny Cash, American Recordings VI is due sometime this year.
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03-23-2007, 10:40 AM
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Johnny Cash, American Recordings VI is due sometime this year.
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Awesome! American V was outstanding.
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03-23-2007, 11:58 AM
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I think that the experience of changing their sound will lead to a lot more maturity.
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This is true and I probably shouldn't be so hard on them, cause as you said, it was a step in a different direction. I don't think it was a huge step, but movement nonetheless and that should be commendable; and even to some, good enough to listen to. But like I said in an earlier post, it is just boring. I kind of feel like the strokes agree. Albert Hammond Jr. just released that solo album and Julian is working with QOTSA, so obviously there is interest in exploring new things.
I do still have faith in the strokes and it would take a continued release of bad music for me to completely write them off.
Same goes for Interpol. It would be impossible for my curiosity not to get the best of me and check it out.
I agree with you about Amnesiac as well. They should have just released it as what it is, b sides to Kid A, a bit after the Kid A or just released a kick ass double disc.
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03-23-2007, 01:43 PM
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This is true and I probably shouldn't be so hard on them, cause as you said, it was a step in a different direction. I don't think it was a huge step, but movement nonetheless and that should be commendable; and even to some, good enough to listen to. But like I said in an earlier post, it is just boring. I kind of feel like the strokes agree. Albert Hammond Jr. just released that solo album and Julian is working with QOTSA, so obviously there is interest in exploring new things.
I do still have faith in the strokes and it would take a continued release of bad music for me to completely write them off.
Same goes for Interpol. It would be impossible for my curiosity not to get the best of me and check it out.
I agree with you about Amnesiac as well. They should have just released it as what it is, b sides to Kid A, a bit after the Kid A or just released a kick ass double disc.
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I wasn't aware that Julian was working with QOTSA, what is he working on with Homme (the only real stable musician in QOTSA anymore)?
I haven't heard Albert Hammond Jrs CD, is it any good? I'd be interested in hearing it.
I think that if you liked the earlier stuff of any band, but not their later stuff, that you should still give anything they release a small chance. A lot of bands, like Modest Mouse, bring their earlier sounds back into their styles again after going popular. I'm still holding out for the Peppers.
The only trouble with Kid A being a double CD is that record companies generally don't like to do double discs. I just think that if Amnesiac had been released around the same time as Hail To The Thief, labeled as a B-Sides disc and sold for 3/4 to 1/2 the price of a normal CD it would have worked out more in their favor. As it was, Amnesiac turned out to be severely disappointing. Especially since it contained a song that was already on Kid A.
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03-25-2007, 03:40 PM
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I guess im in the minority here, but i really like Amnesiac. Its not as strong as Kid A or Ok Computer but i think its still a really strong release and the song styles are alot more varied. The band didn't see the songs as b sides and wanted to release it as a cd. I don't see why they can't do that. 9/10 cd for me, better than HTTT.
But the real reason I came to this thread was to say that while technically a re-release, the best thing i've heard this year is J Dilla's Rough Draft. Fucking brilliant. RIP
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03-25-2007, 10:57 PM
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Just saw that Dashboard video from modest mouse's new album. Nice.
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03-26-2007, 08:23 AM
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I wasn't aware that Julian was working with QOTSA, what is he working on with Homme (the only real stable musician in QOTSA anymore)?
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here is the information I know: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/n...n-new-qotsa-lp
looks pretty promising!
I enjoy Amnesiac quite a bit. Radiohead b-sides in general are pretty great.
I can't wait for the new album, on the site it says mixing so it seems like it will be soon!
Modest Mouse - We were dead before the ship even sank
It took a little while to grow on me but I like it. Its not as strong as a whole as some of their other albums but it still is a quality listen. We've got everything is my favorite at the moment.
Rough Draft, I really got to check that out.
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03-26-2007, 10:54 AM
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This is a sweet video to a remix of one of the songs off Rough Draft.
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