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Old 10-19-2006, 06:37 PM   #21
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He was a great man

Animals were his number one passion and he was an award winning conservationist. He never harmed any of the animals during his lifetime. I have no qualms with him or his career.
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Old 10-19-2006, 06:55 PM   #22
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Animals were his number one passion and he was an award winning conservationist. He never harmed any of the animals during his lifetime. I have no qualms with him or his career.



What he may or may not have done with animals off camera is not at issue, on camera he treated them with no respect at all....and it ended up costing him his life and his family their love one. On camera, he was constantly harming the animals.


Go grab someone by their spine and twist it around and tell me it doesn't cause harm....but at least the human can tell you he or she is in pain. All the animal can do is to react in the only way it can. It will either try to escape if it can, or attempt to attack.



A Stingray is normally very docile, unless threatened. They will go out of their way to escape, if possible. He and his cameraman boxed in the Stingray. Irwin trapped it from above, which is a major mistake only made by an inexperienced person. A Stingray will always automatically flex the serrated barb on its tail upward, if it senses something above it and that close.



You don't see any of the other conservationists handling animals the way he did, or not respecting their space the way he did on camera.


It's because of how he treated the animals differently than others on TV that got him so much attention, and made him so much money.
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Old 10-19-2006, 07:11 PM   #23
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As I said before, I felt bad for his family at the time. He on the other hand, didn't respect the animals or their space. You treat the animals the way he did, and eventually what happened will happen. I thought it was a joke that the Austrilian Govt. wanted to give him a State Funeral. At least his father apparently has some sense.

Now they’re going to milk it for all the can by using the daughter.


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Old 10-19-2006, 07:19 PM   #24
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On camera and at the family Zoo, he exploited the animals and his family and now that will continue with his daughter.

A bit down memory lane of what he is willing to do to make a dollar. I would also like you to notice the complete lack of support he gave his son's head through this video. The necks of children that young can't support their own heads. He's lucky he didn't break his son's neck in the process of doing this bit of stupidity.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKWYfENFLSA
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:25 AM   #25
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The babys head is flopping all over...
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:05 AM   #26
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At the time, his son was only one month.




About those "Awards" he has been given, they're only from Austrilia and mostly for his being a tourist attraction.
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Old 10-20-2006, 07:26 AM   #27
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I think you've only heard/seen one side of him if you think that. What he did for animals was incredible. I didn't see him harm animals on camera either. Picking them up, sure, but harming them, no way. The stingray incident was a freak accident too. Irwin didn't box it in...and how could you with a boat when it swims under water? From my understanding he was just swimming with them, and obviously a bit too closely.

As for him with his kid "dancing" in front of the carocodile, there is one camera angle which looks like he's really close, then there's a side view where you can see that they're over 2 metres away. It was still stupid to do but the media jumped on it and overexaggerated it.

Also, Irwin wasn't about making money. He wore the same clothes day in, day out! All the money he made he put into conservation and wildlife. He did a massive amount of work that never even got heard of, and that's why the Australian government respected him. Not only for the work he did on camera, but also the amount of tourism to Australia he caused and the amount of research on animals, you name it.

What do you think of David Attenborough?!?
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Old 10-20-2006, 05:12 PM   #28
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I agree with (e) 100 percent!

If you have a problem with Steve Irwin, your priorities are way out of whack. Animal testing for cosmetics, poaching, skinning, kids torching animals for fun. Focus your energy on the real threat to animals and let Steve rest in peace.
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Old 10-21-2006, 12:12 AM   #29
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They are 100% worse than something like this but it's still to the same effect.

exploitation for $$$$$$$$.
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Old 10-21-2006, 04:17 AM   #30
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Stepping aside for a minute from the argument that he wasn't the conservationist that he was cracked up to be. The saddest result of Irwin's death is the fact that most didn't take his conservationist ideas to heart. Not long after Irwin's death, dozens upon dozens of stingrays were being slaughtered, their barbs cut off, by Australians as an "act of revenge". Ignorance knows no bounds.
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