The State of Music - Page 6

Reverend Rock · 12-29-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mpittman

I don't think it's the music that needs to change. I think it's the musical taste of the average listener that needs work. Most non-musician people I know only listen to what they grew up listening to and never progress beyond that point. I think the populace needs more of the education than the musicians right now...

Amen...but you're preaching to the choir, you know...

tanjello · 01-03-2007, 07:41 AM

The general populace does not care about getting a musical education. It is not important to them. They don't love music enough to spend the time and money on music, it is irrelevant to them.
I love music, but I think it is much more important for the general populace to educate themselves in other areas before they concern themselves with something as unimportant as their musical taste.

TheZola · 01-04-2007, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tanjello

The general populace does not care about getting a musical education. It is not important to them. They don't love music enough to spend the time and money on music, it is irrelevant to them.
I love music, but I think it is much more important for the general populace to educate themselves in other areas before they concern themselves with something as unimportant as their musical taste.

I agree. I completely disagree with mpittman but I wasn't absolutely sure how to approach a response. I'm not sure whether I thoroughly understand mpittman's opinion either. If the average listener changes does that mean the music itself will change? I don't think that is absolutely true. How could it be?

Satchmo8101 · 01-04-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tanjello

The general populace does not care about getting a musical education.

You do realize that you can use this sentence to describe pretty much anything?

The general populace doesn't want to think too much or be educated about a great many things, if not most things.

Reverend Rock · 01-05-2007, 03:04 AM

Yes, you could put the period after the word "care", and you've got an accurate description of our society today: The general populace does not care.

Roivas · 01-05-2007, 02:57 PM

What's "in demand" is artificially distorted by the marketing paradox. Are they giving us what we really want, or are we buying things simply because they're being marketed to us?

Since marketing is not a hard science, there really can be no answer. I think the latter is more accurate, though.

"Well, we have a lot of leftover jars of crap. Let's switch all the billboards and unload a few million."

tanjello · 01-07-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Satchmo8101

You do realize that you can use this sentence to describe pretty much anything?

The general populace doesn't want to think too much or be educated about a great many things, if not most things.

Exactly, which is why educating them about what we consider good music is quite unimportant. There are much more pressing things that they should be brough to their attention.

mpittman · 01-10-2007, 02:17 PM

I'm going to stick to my guns on this one. Educating the public about finer culture is one of the most important things the education system needs to focus on. Regardless if the public wants to learn it or not. To lay down and give up something like great music, literature, and other arts is not something I want to do. I want to force it on people. Force their brains to think, if only for the second it takes to realize they don't even want to try to understand.

This level of art is not passive, it takes thought to enjoy. And in order for the world as a whole to become smarter it will take an overwhelming interest in higher art forms. That's why I continue to push peoples limits as to what they listen to.

Those that you do reach will have a head start on contributing.

Roivas · 01-10-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mpittman

Educating the public about finer culture is one of the most important things the education system needs to focus on.

Being a night shift manager, I don't think I'd like to start finding quotations from John Milton on the janitor's resume.

So, no thanks.

T Bogus · 01-10-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mpittman

I'm going to stick to my guns on this one. Educating the public about finer culture is one of the most important things the education system needs to focus on. Regardless if the public wants to learn it or not. To lay down and give up something like great music, literature, and other arts is not something I want to do. I want to force it on people. Force their brains to think, if only for the second it takes to realize they don't even want to try to understand.

This level of art is not passive, it takes thought to enjoy. And in order for the world as a whole to become smarter it will take an overwhelming interest in higher art forms. That's why I continue to push peoples limits as to what they listen to.

Those that you do reach will have a head start on contributing.

I agree that people should be exposed to culture, but there are intelligent contributing members of society that just don't have the time to understand art. In order to be well-versed in any of the fine arts, you have to have a strong interest in it, or have a good amount of free time.

The average human being simply doesn't have the time. It's not coincidental that the term "fine art" is sometimes associated with "wealthy."