I see way more Dark Side of the Moon shirts than any kind of Zep shirt

sometimes i think i automatically stick up my nose because some meat-head with horrid taste calls Zeppelin his favourite band. i think "i can't possibly enjoy something this philistine embraces" and therefore unfairly rebuke my once favourite band.


EXACTLY what I was talking about when I said that Led Zep is NOT hip. Precisely. The best music, to me, goes wherever it wants and doesn't keep a close tab on "what's cool" or "what's hip". It's authentic enough to take the chance of being mocked. Some people are so obsessed with being hip, if you will, that they won't associate with anything that they know a redneck with a mullet would like(please disregard what I said somewhere else around here about mullet Metallica fans - I still like some Metallica), to give one example. Maybe I should give a definition of hip. Hip does not mean popular necessarily. The Clash is perhaps the hippest band there ever was but they aren't nearly as popular as Lynrd Skynrd(who are as far as you can get from hip - don't get me wrong, I can't stand them either). Hip is defined by the culturally elite. They invented the word and they decide what it means and stands for. In many ways my musical taste is hip, but that's by accident. I like what I like because I like it and it has nothing at all to do with who other people might associate me with because of it. I mean, how many people do you know that have Blind Melon and Radiohead as 2 of their 5 favorite bands?

So ya wanna dump out yo' trick bag.
Ease on in a hip thang,
But you ain't exactly sure what is hip.

So you started to let your hair grow.
Spent big bucks on your wardrobe.
Somehow, ya know there's much more to the trip.

What is hip?
Tell me, tell me, if you think you know.
What is hip?
If you're really hip,
the question, "Will it show?"
You're into a hip trip.
Maybe hipper than hip.
What is hip?

You became a part of a new breed.
Been smokin' only the best weed.
Hangin' out with the so called "Hippie set."

Seen in all the right places.
Seen with just the right faces.
You should be satisfied, but it ain't quite right.

Hipness is. What it is!
Hipness is. What it is!
Hipness is. What it is!
Sometimes hipness is, what it ain't.

You went an' found you a guru.
In an effort to find you a new you,
And maybe even raise your conscious level.

While you're striving to find the right road,
There's one thing you should know,
"What's hip today, might become passe'."

Quite a few actually. Most people I know that like Blind Melon also like Radiohead (although the opposite is not always true).

I agree with the opinion that Led Zeppelin's brand of rock and rool is really not the kind of music that is "outgrown." Certainly, and time will bear this out, there are bands that are no longer going ot be interesting in cerain phases of life. But there is nothing sophomoric about them whatsoever. This is sort of an odd question to me, unless you're planning on listening excusively to jazz or classical music, and even if you are, it's still a curious misconception that Zeppelin's output is in any way childish. Time should have cleared this up long, long ago.

Honestly, I really only listen to the live stuff at this point...

not the macho posturing, silly lord of the rings lyrics, or overbearing indulgence? none of that strikes you as sophomoric?

how, oh how? you're someone who enjoys progressive rock, who likes calculated complexity. how can you stand the sloppy masturbation that is a zeppelin live show?

No more than an other blues-based rock band; less so in many cases.

So now, are you going to say that you are renouncing all rock music? Is that how you've come to decide that it needs "outgrowing" and you are simply using this particular band as the poster child for that with which you no longer feel connected in any way?

well you have to admit, zeppelin would be the perfect poster boy if that were the case. and as it is, i do denounce a lot of bands that embody those traits.

i will however, admit that zeppelin trounces most contemporaries and slew of followers.

So you don't like rock music anymore. That's fine. I don't have a problem with this in and of itself.

You aren't "growing up" by coming to this conclusion however. You are simply changing your own personal tastes.