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Old 03-26-2006, 01:58 AM   #31
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WOot! I think posting in a thread with "eclectic" in the title now makes me hip by association or somethin'.

Ps: Thanks for posting those time signatures! This only confirms your superiority and ability to recognize good music. Please don't ever change.


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Old 03-26-2006, 03:49 AM   #32
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Me too. SockPerson, I hope you stick around.
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:00 PM   #33
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FOR THE BEST OF YOU ...

It made more sense to me to exclude the bonus tracks from the following albums (by replacing the discs with revised CD-Rs): Ozric Tentacles - "Strangeitude"; Hawklords - "25 Years On"; Gong - "You"; and the John Coltrane albums (apart from track 5 ("Leo") on "Interstellar Space"). These trips have a greater sense of completion. Gå fremad og høst flein You need read no further

FOR THE REST OF YOU (AAAAH SOULS) ...

Ha ha haheeeqlkuirelalhsvfkuj. Hello Normals ... "yay, let's form a pecking order" ... "you pat my back, I'll pat yours" ... "negativity, negativity, moan, whine, whine, snigger" ... "attack ATTACK" ... "my collection's better than yours, nurrr nurr nuh nurr nurrr" ... tsk, I'm so surprised. I won't waste my time making another post after these two, but I'd like to redeem this CD collection for any modest and open-minded music lovers out there. I'll defend the albums that have been so kindly criticised (although I won't do so again).

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T Bogus, er, what are you talking about? I haven't "listed just about every album that Viktor Vaughn (& alter egos) has put out" ... Viktor Vaughn is a pseudonym of MF Doom and I've only listed 2 CDs by him (Viktor Vaughn and Madvillain). I've listened to several of his albums ("The Mouse And The Mask"; "Madvillainy"; "Mm..Food"; "Vaudeville Villain"; "Operation Doomsday") but only found his Viktor Vaughn and Madvillain projects to be box-worthy. Amusing patter, though.

As for the other CDs you've singled out ... er, what? ... they have great music, production, and ... oh, I see - must be the lyrics ...

Kool Keith - "Sex Style" (which, incidentally, is coming out of the box to make room for the new Venetian Snares) ... "bourbon booze, green alligator shoes / union comissioned sex, government intelligence / what you see girl, that Benz is irrelevant / materialistic, ugly man is plastic"

Nirvana - "In Utero" ... "meat-eating orchids forgive no one just yet / cut myself on angel hair and baby's breath / broken hymen of your highness, I'm left black / throw down your umbilical noose so I can climb right back"

Deftones - "White Pony" ... "we'll stop to rest on the moon / and we'll make a fire / I'll steal a carcass for you / then feed off the virus"

Deftones - "Around The Fur" ... "I always wondered why it takes / fifteen stitches and a soft parody / to make my eyes be like deceit / believe the sting proves heart to me"

Leonard Cohen - "Best Of" ... "I came upon a wedding that old families had contrived / Bethlehem the bridegroom, Babylon the bride / great Babylon was naked, she stood there trembling for me / and Bethlehem inflamed us both like the shy one at some orgy / and when we fell together all our flesh was like a veil / that I had to draw aside to see the serpent eat its tail"

And as for Canibus - "Rip The Jacker"? You're right, of course, there's absolutely no merit whatsoever to the content of this album (snarf snarf). I mean, just check out some of these appalling flows ...

"this is the line of real / the circle of time / the cycle of eternity / the emergence of one line / academic phonetics render critics tongue-tied / the personified dry humour of cum laude alumni / a wise man sees failure as progress / a fool divorces his knowledge and misses the logic / and loses his soul in the process / obsessed with nonsense / with a caricature that has no content"

"I'm convinced now that more than the truth is at stake / when people create language that pretends to communicate / euphemisms are misundertood as mistakes / but it's a by-product of the ghetto music we make"

"to find the answers that we didn't know / maybe Edgar Allen Poe's description of El Dorado is not so / see the reason there's no light at the end of the tunnel / 'cause we're really not in a tunnel / we're trapped in a bubble / with government hierarchy / and the dreads of society / can you explain why you believe hell is fiery? / we're suffering from symptoms of drapetomania / slavery isn't over / it just took a new alias / the data repository / established for the maintenance / almost turned me into an atheist scared of aliens"

"I harness the power of the chakra / remote-viewing into darkness / describing what I see in the process / stone statues surrounded by neolithic objects / geoglyphs on the pampa / a dose of propalamine makes you feel like a dream / the dream state is the playground for the supreme"

"quantum coupling mechanisms and technical shit / confuses you but I don’t think you're any less of a dick / just define what is poetry and what is rap / I'll demonstrate how to effectively bridge the gap"

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jazzfromhell - I see that you "completely disagree with this manner of listening" ... chortle ... whoops, I just wet myself ... I couldn't give a Sunni Shiite whether you "disagree" or not, you scum-sucking sack of worm's puke. As I wrote in my original exposition ... "You may not agree with my system but it works for me" ... because I'm learning from this music, everything gets an equal hearing. If I put on something that I don't care to hear, well, then it shouldn't be in the box. Disagree away. It's my prerogative to manage my collection as I see fit. Isn't it? Zounds, I do believe it is.

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SockPerson, put a sock in it. I listed some of Venetian Snares' time signatures to arouse people's curiosity, so that they'd check out the MUSIC. Why would I do it to boast about my "superiority and ability to recognize good music"? I'll never even meet you (and thank the gods for that, you foolish fish).

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Zlatko Kreso and jazzfromhell ... nice mutual masturbation. Keep it up!

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Roivas, if you look, you'll notice that I do have modern classical music that isn't conducted by Boulez. I have some Boulez CDs, though, because ... erm, they're good. Numerous Boulez recordings have received awards (Grammys, amongst others). Why? Because they're poop? I haven't always chosen Boulez over the alternatives. What about Stravinsky's "Rite Of Spring"? Do I have Boulez's version? Nope ... Ozawa's. And do I have Boulez's dazzling reading of Varese? Nuh-uh ... I've Chailly's. Why? Because they're the BETTER VERSIONS. Likewise, of the Boulez recordings that I do have, all things considered, they're the BETTER VERSIONS. The only one that was a really tough call to make was Mahler's 9th; it took my wife and me many listens but we ended up favouring Boulez's version over Barbirolli's.

And, Roivas, I didn't say that Beethoven is cheesy. My problem with Beethoven's music is not that it's cheesy ... my problem is that many of his motifs are very repetitious. Take his Fifth, for example, in all its rhythmically repetitious glory ...

(intro: -- durrrrr / -- durrrrr) -- dur / -- dur / -- durrrrr / -- dur / -- dur / -- durrrrr / -- durrrrr / -- durrrrr / -- dur / durr / durrrrrrrrr ...

Ho hum, the pop music of its day.

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Well, well, Satchmo8101. What is there to laugh about? Why don't you take note of the quote you keep posting? ... "People will always talk about you, especially when they envy you and the life you live. Let them ... you affected their lives, they didn't affect yours.� So why the insults? If you want to get personal, asking for my age and so forth, so that you can feel smugly superior, you can find out all about me at http://bandmix.co.uk/profile5389.html

What about you, though? You said that I'd "better be sure [i] have an idea who [I'm] dealing with" ... Well, who am I dealing with, then? No, wait, let me guess. It's Trey Spruance, right? Or Simon Posford? No, no, it's Marc Royal. Masami Akita? Could it be Aaron Funk? Perhaps it's Josh Davies. Let me see, Jonathan Valentine? Benji Vaughan? Erm, Adam Drucker? Oh, I don't know, Pope John Paul II six feet under? ... ARGH ... I give up. Please tell me who you are, you wondrous omniscient god. Oh please, please be my friend. I am in awe and worship you so. Y'know? But still, there's this little voice saying "I couldn't give a flying fork who you are, you snivelling little toad."

Well, phew, that was my penultimate post. Ta ta malcontents
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:01 PM   #34
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-some idiots who've got nothing better to do than waste their time in a forum whining ...
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:34 PM   #35
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:34 PM   #36
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People who receive awards are always the best. This sort of thinking saves time ill spent making up your own mind.

As far as you and your wife listening to the two recordings of Mahler's 9th available at Sam Goody; THOSE ARE NOT THE BEST!
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Old 03-30-2006, 05:02 PM   #37
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Sam Goody(s?) are these crappy record stores they have in the malls in The States.

Don't like Chailly's Varese. Tho' it's awfully convenient to buy his "complete Varese" CDs, but I've heard a lot of great stuff on vinyl that I'd choose over his interps.

With Mahler, I don't think there's a definitive recording of any of his symphonies. Some, like Bruno Walter's 5th, you could say are more historically important...but I've become very hesitant to make such distinctions.

That would be your post-ultimate post.

People with very little knowledge are usually quite defensive.
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jazzfromhell - I see that you "completely disagree with this manner of listening" ... chortle ... whoops, I just wet myself ... I couldn't give a Sunni Shiite whether you "disagree" or not, you scum-sucking sack of worm's puke. As I wrote in my original exposition ... "You may not agree with my system but it works for me" ... because I'm learning from this music, everything gets an equal hearing. If I put on something that I don't care to hear, well, then it shouldn't be in the box. Disagree away. It's my prerogative to manage my collection as I see fit. Isn't it? Zounds, I do believe it is.

Uh oh, looks like someone's gone into a hissy fit after his he went fishing around for compliments and came out nearly emptyhanded. What, you expected we'd just put you on a throne and worship your new, genius way of listening to music? By the way, I'm not even gonna mention that I did imply you could listen to music however you wish. Is some of my worm-puke getting in your eyes?

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SockPerson, put a sock in it. ... I'll never even meet you (and thank the gods for that, you foolish fish).

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Zlatko Kreso and jazzfromhell ... nice mutual masturbation. Keep it up!

We couldn't help it, not that he isn't a good guy to start out with, but SockPerson's competition was a little weak.

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Roivas, if you look, you'll notice that I do have modern classical music that isn't conducted by Boulez. I have some Boulez CDs, though, because ... erm, they're good. Numerous Boulez recordings have received awards (Grammys, amongst others). Why? Because they're poop? I haven't always chosen Boulez over the alternatives. What about Stravinsky's "Rite Of Spring"? Do I have Boulez's version? Nope ... Ozawa's. And do I have Boulez's dazzling reading of Varese? Nuh-uh ... I've Chailly's. Why? Because they're the BETTER VERSIONS. Likewise, of the Boulez recordings that I do have, all things considered, they're the BETTER VERSIONS. The only one that was a really tough call to make was Mahler's 9th; it took my wife and me many listens but we ended up favouring Boulez's version over Barbirolli's.

And, Roivas, I didn't say that Beethoven is cheesy. My problem with Beethoven's music is not that it's cheesy ... my problem is that many of his motifs are very repetitious. Take his Fifth, for example, in all its rhythmically repetitious glory ...

(intro: -- durrrrr / -- durrrrr) -- dur / -- dur / -- durrrrr / -- dur / -- dur / -- durrrrr / -- durrrrr / -- durrrrr / -- dur / durr / durrrrrrrrr ...

Ho hum, the pop music of its day.

Using Grammys to validate any kind of music and then speaking negatively of pop music is a bit ironic, if you ask me.


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Well, well, Satchmo8101. What is there to laugh about? Why don't you take note of the quote you keep posting? ... "People will always talk about you, especially when they envy you and the life you live. Let them ... you affected their lives, they didn't affect yours.� So why the insults? If you want to get personal, asking for my age and so forth, so that you can feel smugly superior, you can find out all about me at http://bandmix.co.uk/profile5389.html

What about you, though? You said that I'd "better be sure [i] have an idea who [I'm] dealing with" ... Well, who am I dealing with, then? No, wait, let me guess. It's Trey Spruance, right? Or Simon Posford? No, no, it's Marc Royal. Masami Akita? Could it be Aaron Funk? Perhaps it's Josh Davies. Let me see, Jonathan Valentine? Benji Vaughan? Erm, Adam Drucker? Oh, I don't know, Pope John Paul II six feet under? ... ARGH ... I give up. Please tell me who you are, you wondrous omniscient god. Oh please, please be my friend. I am in awe and worship you so. Y'know? But still, there's this little voice saying "I couldn't give a flying fork who you are, you snivelling little toad."

Well, phew, that was my penultimate post. Ta ta malcontents

To pull a favorite tactic of Satchmo:

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle." - Sun Tzu



Now, you may already be banned. And if you aren't banned, you may see that you've made too much of a fool of yourself to try and make another "attempt" at validating your musical preferences. However, my bet is that you'll be back. And hey, I don't have a problem with it, we'll always welcome a musical prophet such as yourself.
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I'm insulted! The dude didn't comment on my smart-ass post! I put a lot of effort into that and he didn't even have the nerve to respond with any, let alone equal, smart-assness...

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