I have to be honest. Moving to Chicago, from baltimore, there was
more of scene back in bmore for live jazzbased jungle/breakbeat
than here in chicago. CRAZEEE, right?

there's plenty of house clubs, techno loft parties, jazz, freejazz, blues,
jam band, cover band, rock/indie/emo out there but hardly any places
that actually book...let alone PUSH live electro-acoustic junglebop.

sometimes feels like i'm in the wrong place...perhaps nyc, seattle, or
london would be better. and it's not that chicago isn't receptive to new
things or music like this (my bands have done well for themselves after
much pushing, promoting, and word of mouth), but the city is just so
large that when you're a small fish in the proverbial big pond...it takes
some serious time, patience, and determination to get a few cats to
turn their heads.

this is not a new scene, live jungle...i've heard of legendary jam sessions
in nyc at izzy's back around the turn of the millenium. I'm well versed with
landmark drummers such as Johnny Rabb (super hero action figures & author
of the incredible live dnb/jungle instruction book for drumset-nashville), jojo meyer (screaming headless torsos/izzy's-nyc), joe tomino (birth/dub trio-nyc), mike lowry (big in japan/lake trout-baltimore); red snapper, roni size, squarepusher, london elektricity (england), yuval gabay (soul coughing/US)...
...and smaller bands (that kickass) such as:::kj sawka (seattle), color and talea (boston), antizario (ontario), spizm, trioizm, steps(74), 1000 vertical feet, & 7 league boots (chicago), astroid power-up, and a few others i'm sure I'm forgetting.

This thread is for the posting of other live jungle/dnb/breakbeat/junglebop/glitch
bands that you know of or have heard about. If it's your own, that's all good!
But i want to hear about what you're hearing about. links are appreciated...

~peace
spiz

checkout this link:::

http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?...96291102840642

i notice that you didn't mention acid jazz in that mix. do you feel that it was related to these forms ? i am familiar with several of the artists you list and some i consider electronic and some not, so i guess that's not the utter criteria...

well Spiz, if you're into the whole live instrumentation along with IDM or breakbeats, I'd definitely tell you to check out Sayag Jazz Machine. I think it's something you'd definitely enjoy.

http://www.lamixerie.org/sayag/index.html

Is Spizm no more? I believe the oldest member of the horde, saw you in Philadelphia, about two or three years ago.

satchmo, yes i must admit, spizm has lain defunct since april 2005. we did
a show in philey with MESS (electro-music member). do you guys know this
dude? mosc from EM.com?

equinox:::thanks for the recommendation. hadn't heard of them yet. awesome.

acid jazz is definitely related. And I listen to this style quite a bit. it's as much
related as early hardcore late 60's/early 70's fusion. the miles davis stuff from
live evil, on the corner...show early fast funkjazz takes on what would be later
referred to as jungle beats. drumNbass is essentially a spedup version of
breakbeat, that's been straightened out. so the acid jazz, which tended to
be a little more smooth, would be closer to modern downtempo. I refer to
this live sound as acid breakeat or abstract break.

spiz, first of all i'd like to ask for recommendations on recorded examples of johnny rabb. i actually teach a couple of his techniques that i picked up from a student, but i'm not sure if i even have anything he's on. i looked at allmusic, but any help would be great...

secondly, a thought crossed my mind that since you're in chicago with a healthy blues environment, that a collaboration between a live breakbeat, jungle rhythm section and forward thinking local blues musicians might provide for a cross-marketing in with some blues clubs, or could be sold as a "palate cleanser" at blues festivals. i think there's even a precedent with some of the stuff on fat possum records (i believe r.l. burnside)...

i sure you've heard dj's krush and food. they are two of my favorite jazz influenced dj's...

johnny rabb, well he's sort of elusive in what he's on, because of the studio freelancing
he does. I do know of one of his groups, think they're out in california...Super Action Figures,
or Super Hero Action Figures.

By the way, that's interesting that you've pickedup some of the techniques of Rabb. I honestly
have spent so much woodshedding on his outstanding book, jungle/dnb for the drum set that
I give lessons for live jungle in chicago, how it can fuse with any style, and how (most importantly
for my mission) it melds with bebop, and jazz in general. I've started several performance groups here that remix jazz standards with jungle, breakbeat, and drumNbass, if not idm-gabba-drillNbass rhythems. Modern drummers (with no nod to the magazine at all) are starting to take notice of this style. it's complicated, fast, strenuous, and involves a lot of technique...but most jazz musicians aren't familiar with the sound that often. One thing in my court...I am. Big fan of idm-jungle-drumNbass. So now in chicago you have two new styles slowly creeping out, 1) jungle bop, and 2) freespazz

concerning the blues idea you had, not bad. hadn't actually thought of that kind of collaborations, mainly because blues cats essentially like that hard swinging feel, and this doesn't mesh well with the straight time of jungle to well. BUT, I am linking with tons of jazz, freejazz, and fusion cats here that are into improvisation, and this seems to be the connection that makes the most sense.

essentially, if you take a 180+ bebop ride time from say...max roach with charlie parker or clifford brown, from the period...and instead of bass bombs, the hi hat stays on 2&4 and the snare and bass drum roles openup further to kick actual morphing beats...jungle. REally works well, and not an easy style to do or master. i honestly think it's one of the next steps in drumming. cats just don't know it yet...but i'm trying to push it here in chicago.

if i could only get my band in at the green mill for a weekend...

krush and food are dope brotha! spooky's cool. amon tobin, squarepusher, red snapper (especially).
lamb also has some hardcore live techno elements, and jazzy songs that i'm into. respekt

some other bands I've come into contact with that demonstrate the live jungle
approach with jazz instrumentation:

qmr plus (new orleans/chicago), grilly biggs (NO/Chicago), Big in Japan (baltimore),
Lake Trout (baltimore), Birth (cleveland/nyc), color and talea (boston), kj sawka (seattle),
spizm, trioizm & steps(74) (chicago), antizario (ontario, Canada), 7 league boots (chicago)

http://www.myspace.com/qmrplus
http://www.myspace.com/grillybiggs
http://www.myspace.com/laketrout
http://www.birthsound.com
http://www.myspace.com/colorandtalea
http://www.myspace.com/kjsawka
http://www.myspace.com/spizm
http://www.myspace.com/trioizm
http://www.myspace.com/steps74
http://www.myspace.com/antizario
http://www.myspace.com/sevenleagueboots