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12-10-2005, 06:26 PM
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Run, Pig, Run
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Music That Has Changed The World
What are some albums / songs that have altered the landscape of the world? The reason I ask that we talk about albums or songs is because it is easy to say that The Beatles changed the world, but I'm trying to narrow it down to perhaps the reason why.
When I say change the world I mean:
-Created political movements
-Gave a group of people a voice
-Ending national regimes
-Saved lives?
-Changed peoples perspectives on what is good/bad
-etc.
It does not even have to be GOOD changes. Music can definately affect people negatively.
The most important part of this thread is to make sure that the
MUSIC DIRECTLY INFLUENCED THE CHANGES
What do you guys got?
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12-11-2005, 04:44 AM
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kwanzaa
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Well, there was that DJ from Rwanda that helped inspired one group of psycho hutfolk to machete another group of psycho hutfolk (pardon-- hutPEOPLE.) I guess he's not really a musician per se.
Victor Jara was shot in the Chile Stadium for being too good a singer.
What do you mean exactly? Musicians that impacted peoples lives directly, or music? Isn't kind of facile to think that music along can inspire humanistic initiative?
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12-11-2005, 04:46 AM
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kwanzaa
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music alone*
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12-11-2005, 02:01 PM
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Well, there's no question that art can influence people. My question is if art(music) has ever directly impacted people on a global scale... for better or for worse.
I'll make up a situation that I think would qualify for what I'm asking. Lets say that there was a public enemy song back in the 80's that really gave insight to alot of poor black people on how to correct their social and financial situations. Lets say that this song told the black community to stop killing eachother, and to focus on generating business, and to get an education, etc.
Now the final part of it would be that the black community actually responded.... and the next 2 years following the song's release, there were dozens of movements created that followed public enemy's ideology, and the black-on-black murder rate in 15 cities went down.
I just made all of that up, but that would be something that I'm looking for. Exceptional art/artists changing the world.
I hope this clarified it.
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12-11-2005, 03:02 PM
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Bob fucking Dylan./
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12-12-2005, 01:01 AM
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On a global scale? Whoa, that's a hard sell. Bob Dylan is a good one, but he ended up rejecting the protest scene, and he didn't attend protests himself. Of course he inspired a lot of people to do so, but he wasn't really into it on a personal level (read his Chronicles for more info on this). Regardless, I don't think Dylan's impact was global.
I doubt heavily that massive social change could arise only from a song or an album. Usually it makes up a part of that change, or it energizes a change already brought on by other factors. But a song itself bringing on a social movement? It sounds very unlikely. No doubt music can play a role in such a change, definitely. Anthems are always important parts of movements. But usually anthems arise after a movement starts, they don't generate the movement.
I'll be curious to see if anyone has any examples.
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12-12-2005, 10:14 AM
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Location: Nebraska
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Rage Against the Machine
That free show they had by the Staples Center during the National Democrat Confrence as a protest. Ended up as a riot, and couple people died from rubber bullets. Not sure of the entire story. Anybody else know what I'm talking about?
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12-13-2005, 02:08 AM
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On a global scale? Whoa, that's a hard sell. Bob Dylan is a good one, but he ended up rejecting the protest scene, and he didn't attend protests himself. Of course he inspired a lot of people to do so, but he wasn't really into it on a personal level (read his Chronicles for more info on this). Regardless, I don't think Dylan's impact was global.
I doubt heavily that massive social change could arise only from a song or an album. Usually it makes up a part of that change, or it energizes a change already brought on by other factors. But a song itself bringing on a social movement? It sounds very unlikely. No doubt music can play a role in such a change, definitely. Anthems are always important parts of movements. But usually anthems arise after a movement starts, they don't generate the movement.
I'll be curious to see if anyone has any examples.
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12-14-2005, 05:43 AM
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Are you honestly that retarded?
Shouldn't you be dying in Iraq, or working at WalMart or something?
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12-15-2005, 05:38 PM
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2 Live Crew - changed the way music is viewed from a legal standpoint
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