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12-05-2005, 02:27 PM
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On topic: Isn't Queen's music cheesy enough as it is?
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12-05-2005, 02:34 PM
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Getting back to the original subject, it's not like this sort of thing is without precedent.
After all, who could forget Ice Ice Baby even if they wanted to?  |
Vanilla just played in Buffalo (well, Angola actually). I tried to free up some time to go, but I just couldn't. Was really bummed out that I had to miss him, though.
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12-05-2005, 02:45 PM
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Vanilla just played in Buffalo (well, Angola actually). I tried to free up some time to go, but I just couldn't. Was really bummed out that I had to miss him, though.
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 I didn't know you were a fan. 
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12-05-2005, 02:46 PM
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On topic: Isn't Queen's music cheesy enough as it is?
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Well, they were the first band I ever listened to at length when I was kid, so it's difficult to consider to their music objectively. That said, I never was into their '80s material.
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12-05-2005, 02:49 PM
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Well, if you guys would prefer to transcend all practical relevance, you could firmly place the beginnings of hip-hop/rap with Arnold Schoenberg's Ode to Napoleon composed in 1942. Poetry spoken rhythmically to music. Only thing missing is the beat.
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I think panbient beat you to this one.
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if we want to get really technical it all goes back to the first caveman dropping a beat on his rock with a stick while his buddy freestyled some grunts. funny how it all comes full circle when you listen to 50cent.
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12-05-2005, 02:50 PM
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Well, they were the first band I ever listened to at length when I was kid, so it's difficult to consider to their music objectively. That said, I never was into their '80s material.
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I started checking them out when I was in junior high. Some it it was cool, a lot of it bored me.
Then Wayne's World came out and I sort of reached my saturation point with Queen.
Nothing wrong with a little cheese. I'm saying it was just cheesy enough. Any meddling about with the tunes just might upset its delicate balance.
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12-05-2005, 02:52 PM
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Well, one day I carefully surveyed my music collection. I was like: Mahler, check! Mingus, check! Morty Feldman, check!
Dammit! I've earned the right to partake in a little bad taste once and a while!
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12-05-2005, 02:57 PM
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12-05-2005, 03:01 PM
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Good times.
Alright, everyone's going to think I'm tryin' to bash hip-hop, which isn't the case.
I think the jazz & blues influences were mixed in after the fact. I guess I can see some validity in the funk claim. More like this, though: Funk to Disco to Hip Hop.
I recently heard a sample from Brahm's violin concerto in an R&B tune that came out earlier this year. This doesn't mean that R&B came from Classical music.
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Blues to R&B to Funk to Rap.
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12-05-2005, 03:08 PM
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if we want to get really technical it all goes back to the first caveman dropping a beat on his rock with a stick while his buddy freestyled some grunts. funny how it all comes full circle when you listen to 50cent.
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So....you're saying it was Richard Starkey, who started it all?
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12-05-2005, 03:18 PM
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Blues to R&B to Funk to Rap.
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It's still rock n' roll to Billy Joel.
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