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Old 09-22-2005, 02:19 PM   #71
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Dayvan Cowboy is the fucking bees knees. I can't stop grinning.

Only picked up two tracks, one of which is still downloading (Hey Saturday Sun). I need something to hold me over, but I still want something to anticipate when it comes out.

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Old 10-22-2005, 12:46 AM   #72
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comparitively, i don't think a band like Autechre are timeless. to me, the difference is that they're on a timeline...what they're doing is constantly moving and growing and changing, and so alot of their music is more of an "in the moment" document of who they are, where they've been, and where they're going...whereas BoC are continually tapping into one thing that is always there, and that is the undeniable beauty of nature, love and good music.

great observation. i agree, even as an AE head.
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Old 10-22-2005, 06:35 PM   #73
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thanks man, i try!

i just get frustrated when people get BoC albums and then are all surprised when they haven't made some giant leap from one place to another. they're just not that kind of band.

but just the same, i love autechre, and i think they've done an exceptional job of not repeating themselves too much, even if it meant making stuff i didn't necessarily like. progress is not always pretty, but for a band like autechre, it's essential to their existence.
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:35 PM   #74
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well i'm listening to this new BoC right now (thanks to Josh) and i gotta say it's not too bad...better than geodaddi.
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Old 10-23-2005, 04:05 PM   #75
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give it a good listen. Definitely a better listen than Geogaddi, psh.

well, i bought the cd finally and i had to force myself not to skip through the tracks. it's not too bad, it's good background music
i guess my taste in music has changed a lot since geogaddi was released.
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:44 PM   #76
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Am i the only one that really loves Geogaddi?

Geogaddi isn’t a straightforward rehash of Music Has The Right To Children. Nor is it a re-invention. It is simply a retelling. Geogaddi keeps the BOC formula, but changes some of the variables. The result is an album w/ a similar sound overall, but doing so w/ a completely different temperature and mood.

Of course, I was brought into electroinic music through industrial, so maybe I have an affinity towards "darker" sounds. Seriously -I do think that music appreication, to a degree, is learned... so maybe i prefer Geogaddi b/c I had already taught myself to enjoy "dark" music.

In my opinion, Campfire Headphase, while a great album in its own right, is not quite as successful as Music Has The Right To Children or Geogaddi.

I agree w/ Milieau's observations about BOC being timeless. But I also thing that the duo incorporating a guitar is an attempt to do "something different"(different for BOC anyway). It feels somewhat gimmicky to me. Kind of in a way that is similar to when an aging television series brings in a new character in an attempt to revive the show.

On the other hand, bringing in a new tool forces the artists to bring in a new approach. Many bands have done this sort of thing before w/ varying degrees of success. Imagine how flat Bob Dylan would have been had he never plugged his guitar into an amplifier at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival. Or think about how stale The Dead Can Dance’s catalogue would be w/out them ditching their guitars in favor of a cello, trombones, and timpani.

BOC take a similar risk on this album. They bring a foreign instrument into their already established sound. The problem is that the guitar’s introduction is not seamless. It isn’t awkward, but it isn’t fluid either.

The instrument is used in the same way each time: a short, manipulated, melody is played and then looped. Soft washes of layered sound build slowly over this base of repeating guitar. Eventually, the guitar is completely engulfed in the thick, “electronic� sounding music that BOC is famous for.

I don't know... I do like it, but not nearly as much as I like their previous releases.


...sorry for the long post.
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:47 PM   #77
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sorry for the long post? I wish more people would actually 'elaborate' on their point of view. Never apologize
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Old 10-26-2005, 01:34 AM   #78
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But I also thing that the duo incorporating a guitar is an attempt to do "something different"(different for BOC anyway). It feels somewhat gimmicky to me. Kind of in a way that is similar to when an aging television series brings in a new character in an attempt to revive the show.

i also agree that the guitar implementation is a bit disappointing. my view is that it brings something totally predictable and distinguishable into an atmosphere of wonder and mystery. in my opinion, this kind of mixture should not be stirred in this instance. it kind of ruins the layers of music that i really want to focus on, because my ear really wants to focus on the tangeable guitar lines which are brought right into the foreground when i actually want to get lost in a sequence of abstract ideas. on a side note, i really find that Geogaddi is the Amnesiac so to speak of BoC's catalog. bold, hot not warm and visciously stimulating at moments. a bit closer to you.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:43 PM   #79
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my view is that it brings something totally predictable and distinguishable into an atmosphere of wonder and mystery.


yes! well put!!!
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:06 AM   #80
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I never really got BoC.. I haven't heard that much stuff, but they just never seemed that interesting.
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