Actually, I mean that Cubase VST sucks when compared to Cubase SX... I started with the VST one and I still like it a lot.


Is Autechre a real reference? Actually I had never heard of Autechre before I discovered Radiomute. It's the only place where I've seen his name. At the beginning, I thought he was just a member of Radiomute!!!!!

If you say he's a great artist, I believe you, but now I'm not gonna say Logic is good because a guy named Autechre said so.

not because an artist said so, but because an amazing artist will use it as a tool yo make amazing music. then again, i guess the topic at hand now is mixing.

plus im a bit of an autechre nut swinger so yeah

i'm on the other nut.

I was introduced to Logic IN a recording studio.

Not as many as Cubase but Britney spears is one of the most popular artists on the planet, therefore she's the best. Same fucking argument.


Logic is a less used gem which has a lot of powerful features that make sequencing a hell of a lot more intuitive for me than cubase. I've tried SX and found it to not to be my taste.

You see, "not to my taste" not "Cubase is a bad copy of a piece of software from the 90s". Logic users off the top of my head: Skinny Puppy, Jamaroquai, charlie "nin" clouser, there are a number of seasoned pros who I can't think of at the moment.

But it's not the people who use it, it's the capabilities and this is the thing, Logic can be intimidating until you "get it" then it's so fast it's unreal.

I don't like Cubase, fruityloops etc but I don't write them off as "Shit". I imagine you've only compared an old version too. That's like me saying that Cubase is shit because Pro24 sucked.

I have the latest version, I just spent £700 on it and I was worried as i was changing from PC to mac that I'd need to get a load of plugins too but the only one I've bothered with is reaktor (because I like to make my own stuff) as Logic comes with more than 30 software instruments including insane physical modelling and synths with more routing options than you could ever need, and more than 70 fx plugins including an excellent guitar amp simulator a superb colvolution reverb for starters.

I'm not even starting on the unparalleled drum editor in the sequencing engine and the simple automation that Cubase SX finally managed to copy (but not as well) in its later versions.

Or even on the modular nature of the environment where you can set up max/msp style generative sequencing if that's your thing and route it to pretty much anything.

If you think no pros use Sonar i suggest (off the top of my head) that you throw out anything by Mike Cadoo or Detritus for starters. You may not consider them pro but if you don't thats your loss.

I dont think i understood anything you said about Logic.

Haha Ah well, the fact is he's talking out of his arse.

The thing is that all the big programs are completely viable alternatives to make music with, they all do similar things in a different way, so saying one is great and the rest are shit is just plain stupid. Saying "X" is your preference is different.

i am currently using reason and sound forge together but i am sure i could do that on logic alone, i have logic for PC but i have been to lazy to learn it.

the one thing that does let logic down is the audio editor isn't that good. I used to use soundforge on the PC and now I'm Mac I use Peak.

Apparently they're improving the audio editor on the next version.

i think i can make a great combo out of reason, sound forge and audition.

this thread is very interesting for pc users