i had never heard of this group till a friend of mine IMed me their cd. and man i liked it! its really not like the normal rap I have seen on mtv, its got a much better beat to it and the lead actually sings and raps. you have to listen to it for yourself to really get it. check out some clips of their stuff on this page here its cool!

i just heard about this group too - has that guy Ahmad that had that song "back in the day" - I love their ep but a little too polished for my taste - even still a hell of a lot better than 99% of all the rap coming out - love the band tooo - you should check out this group Waterlog - they have a album floating around that is CRAZY -heard they were being signed to Universal via Erthwermzindert and may release a new album.