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Old 01-25-2005, 09:34 PM   #1
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Piazzolla and Nuevo Tango

Discovered him recently, wow I never thought I'd like tango so much.

Does anyone here know of any good albums with some of his music played by a good symphony/band?
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Old 01-26-2005, 12:24 PM   #2
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This is kind of a stretch for the classical forums.

Try world music.
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:01 PM   #3
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I wouldn't say so - I think Piazzolla is the fine line between classical and world - putting Tango into the concert hall/auditorium; therefore I'd say he was classical.

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Old 01-26-2005, 01:16 PM   #4
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I don't know much about Piazzola, but indeed what I've heard by him sounded way more interesting than what I thought tango was... I guess it's at times more tango to listen to than dance to, no?
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:33 PM   #5
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Wow, this is a bit disturbing, I completely missed this!
I just made a post about him in the world | folk section.

He incorporated elements of Jazz and Classical, but his music is still very much rooted in Tango traditions, so I would keep him in the world section.

I don't know of any of his music that's been performed by a classical ensemble, but I'm wondering why you would bother, given that his own performances and groups were always very lush and well orchestrated. Love Piazzola!
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Old 01-26-2005, 02:16 PM   #6
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Frank Sinatra had an orchestra.

McCartney's Hey Jude was recorded with an orchestra.

Metallica's S&M was recorded with an orchestral accompaniment.

Pet Sounds was played with an orchestra at the Hollywood Bowl.

Heck, even I've played rock music with an orchestra in a concert hall.



None of it has anything to do with classical music.

Just the fact of a violin being somehow involved in the music does not make it classical.
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Just the fact of a violin being somehow involved in the music does not make it classical.

What's the matter, Roivas -- no love for E.L.O.?
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:05 PM   #8
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I have to agree with Roivas. Piazolla may be nice, but it's not classical music. It seems to me that if he's classical, The Phantom of the Opera would be grand opera.
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Frank Sinatra had an orchestra.

McCartney's Hey Jude was recorded with an orchestra.

Metallica's S&M was recorded with an orchestral accompaniment.

Pet Sounds was played with an orchestra at the Hollywood Bowl.

Heck, even I've played rock music with an orchestra in a concert hall.



None of it has anything to do with classical music.

Just the fact of a violin being somehow involved in the music does not make it classical.

Yes, ok, thanks for the patronising.
No, just because there are symphonic instruments does not make it classical, i concur, however Piazzolla did have many classical elements in his music. More so than McCartney, even The Verve :P
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:47 PM   #10
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I guess I don't understand what you mean by "classical elements." Please explain.

Hey, this is more attention than the classical forum has gotten in weeks, so...I'll beat this horse into the ground.

You said: "putting Tango into the concert hall/auditorium; therefore I'd say he was classical." That doesn't cut it. I gave you a list of artist who have played in a concert hall who obviously are not classical composers and your conclusion was that I was patronizing you (well, the violin crack was sort of patronizing). I think I made my point very clear by doing that.

I'm saying that particular definition of classical music is superficial.

A lot of folks on these type of forums think that any form of disagreement is an insult.



Nice harp, Chernobog. I thought your screen name would be in Cyrillic, though.
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