Tell ya what: Find a big steel pot and for each note of 'Don Giovanni", hit the pot over the top of your head with great force.

You are so smart. If only we were all as smart as you. I suppose our "journeys in life" just havent been as fulfilling as yours Mr. Nietzche.

Rap is music, but the style thats prevailing right now is whats shit to me. Hearing some bloke going on about his new car, going to a club, and using his masses of money to buy cheap hookers for the 50th time just doesent do it. Maybe if thats what your into. But say Grime, which has rap as a component is pretty good. Its about real life, its like a breath of fresh air in the stale atmosphere in rap right now. Maybe all were waiting for is a sort of "punk destroying indulgent prog rock" sort of situation.

I'm thinking of buying a Tone Loc-album. Can anybody recommend one?

When my buddy was confronted with the argument that it takes more talent for rappers to do what they do then it does for bands to do what they do (the bands mentioned in that argument were Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, and Dire Straights), he responded with:

"The only thing those goddamn rappers are doin' is changin' the 'boons-boons' to the 'doons-doons'!"

he has more than one? that one with funky cold medina and wild thing on it. I guess i recommend that one. (??)

They ALSO have to wear bullet-proof vests all the time and to watch out for flying knifes. They must learn to know their role in da hood and learn that accent they have. That's quite challanging. Also they have to have new chicks in their villas daily. They need lotsa crack, new limos new shoes and goldchains. They need to get down in da club from seven to eleven. They gotta be street and real tuff and all. Get ruff wit da mean & racist cops in South Central or Newark, know wa I'm sayin'.

DLR, Page and Knopfler want NONE of THIS!

rap IS music. technically 'any' organized sound is music - which i believe was mentioned before here. the problem i have with it, is that it blatantly recycles other music. it uses samples and usually requires like 3 'rappers' - why i don't know, apparently one isn't enough.

i mean every artist and genre 'borrows' from other artists/genres, but to blantantly copy samples into your songs (with no prejudice whatsoever) to actually make up the structure of the song is bullshit and not art, just music. that's where i would make the distinction, rap in general is not artistic, but commercial. there are a few rap artists that are actually artists and strive to further the genre, but overall i would compare it's evolution to country music - which means it's not evolving at all or ridiculously slow.

the entire 'look' and 'aura' of the rap genre is fake and contrived. every rapper acts/raps/moves the same - perhaps by the label's insistance, but either way, it's not an evolving genre and relies on three themes for their lyrics: violence, women, drugs. granted, there are only a handful (or so) or lyrical themes, but to only approach 3 of them in such a straightforward (no variation in rhyming scheme) fashion is amateurish.

i could go on, but i won't. i don't hate rap, but i hate what it has become. this self-imposed 'gangsta' stereotype is laughable and is detrimental to the genre. hopefully a radical artist comes along that will change its appearance in some drastic and creative way.

I guess on Mozart's potential virtuosity on a turntable, we'll have to agree to disagree. But I'm going to maintain that I'm right and you're wrong.

I thought that it would have been clear from my post that my 'life journey' has already 'permitted' me to perceive AND understand the wonders of classical music. I know there is a difference and I never once implied anything else. Clearly, you are the one who has yet to experience the potential of music. It not a problem for me to have the ability to appreciate both the excellence of Bach, Bethoven and Motzart and the wonder's of a 'guy banging a pot against his head'. I'm not missing anything.

How can you not see that you've closed your mind? I'm sure I'm not the only one for whom this much is clear.

Understood. I realize my earlier remarks sounded haughty and condescending and I apologize.

I deserved that.