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Old 12-22-2004, 10:52 AM   #1
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Serial Composition

I don't really know too much about it, but from what I have read, which I'll admit isn't a great deal, it seems to be an incredibly intellectual endevour.

With tone rows: it's almost like aesthetics are thrown out the window in favour of sticking to a system. I'm not saying that I don't like atonal music, but that it seems that serial composition revolves more around the procedure than any aesthetic inspiration...

Am I wrong? I'm expecting to be...
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Old 12-22-2004, 11:50 AM   #2
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Serialism is completely about the procedure and the mathematics of it all. Some people may get some aesthetic value out of it, but not me.

I'm not against throwing in a 12 tone row but I wouldn't base an entire track on it.

I suppose a more modern extension of serialism is the likes of generative music.
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Old 12-22-2004, 01:03 PM   #3
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There's more than one way to use "serialism" in music. Schoenberg thought of it as a temporary fix while he searched for a way out of major/minor tonality. It's value depends on whose writing it.

Like David Gilmore always said, "Give a man a Les Paul and he doesn't become Eric Clapton."

Alban Berg and Dallapiccola have a very lyrical style. I'd suggest listening to them again.
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Old 01-04-2005, 01:31 AM   #4
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I suppose a more modern extension of serialism is the likes of generative music.
What's generative music?
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:44 AM   #5
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Where people use formulas to make notes like fractals or whatever, so the tune is made completely of mathematics.
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Old 01-05-2005, 09:20 AM   #6
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How does it sound? Do you know of any generative composers?
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Old 01-06-2005, 05:09 AM   #7
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Autechre's Confield album is mostly generative.
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Old 01-06-2005, 09:25 AM   #8
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I'll look into that.

So what sounds are actually produced? Are they actually identifiable tones?
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Old 01-06-2005, 12:12 PM   #9
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Yeah they are. I think Autechre use it quite extensively on this, even for rhythm patterns.
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Old 01-06-2005, 09:55 PM   #10
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ligeti's piano etudes are all about the generative processes and fractals
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