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Old 02-05-2005, 05:33 PM   #21
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yeah... i know the circle of fifths and chords from the different scale degrees and some other stuff

no i havent studied counterpoint yet in school , but i've read a bit about it on my own.

i was talking about brindle's musical composition book, not serial composition.

i've set aside $150 (more or less) to spend on books, so the price isn't a big deal
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:20 PM   #22
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I'd get the Knud Jeppesen book, Counterpoint: The Polyphonic Vocal Styles of the Sixteenth Century.

Get Piston's harmony book, too. It seems like everyone has it, so...

The fact that you've been familiarized with "scale degrees" first and not counterpoint makes me roll my eyes, shake my head, and sigh "music school" to myself.

Looks like Jean-Philippe Rameau's Treatise on Harmony is still the last word in music theory.

Figured bass technique and counterpoint are much more important for the beginner. You don't need that much "harmony" to do any of it.


I don't even remember my first harmony book...I think it was Schoenberg's.

Schenker, Schenker, Schenker...I can't stress his ideas enough. Background, Middleground, Foreground. Free composition has form, counterpoint, and harmony all rolled into one.

Felix Salzer's books on Dover are more or less based on Schenker.

Sorry, I misunderstood you on the Brindle thing. I don't know anything about his harmony book. I've read, like, six harmony books...enough is enough.

Maybe someone else went to music school on the forums and has some other ideas. I don't feel like I'm giving you what you want.

Good luck.
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Old 02-06-2005, 05:32 PM   #23
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Here's a fascinating music history book. No practical information for composition, though:

Music in the Western World : A History in Documents

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books
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Old 02-06-2005, 11:36 PM   #24
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alright, i ordered myself these three (used, thank god). im sure ill end up getting a bunch more over time


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...180826-4402368


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...e&s=books&st=*

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books


Schoenberg's "Style and Idea", Cage's "Silence", and Forsyth's "Orchestration" are the only (i think) three music related books i own so far. yikes. not including scores though
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Old 02-07-2005, 12:36 AM   #25
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Sounds good. Post anything interesting you come across.
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