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Old 10-30-2004, 02:05 AM   #31
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Most people that support bush are either rich or ignorant.

Considering most of the people are younger on this forum, you young republicans probably know nothing about being republican.

You are republican because your friend, father, or role-model is.

Wake up America~

Im not democratic or republican. I just think we need to do something before this moron gets another 4 years to fuck up our country without re-election being on his mind.

Bashing Eminem on the rock forum is pretty childish too.
You may not like rap but criticizing one of the best hip-hop artists of our day makes you look stupid.

I guess this is why our nation is falling apart.




Many extremely popular people going against the government model have mysteriously become ill. The most famous examples are Mohammed Ali and Richard Prior.

Both successful, popular black men who decided to use their social power to educate the public about government corruption.

Both men were healthy with no genetic history with Parkinson's disesase.

They now suffer from the physical and mental deterioration of the disease... as you probably know.

Yeah maybe it has nothing to do with the government... but you can't help but wonder what speaking against a multi-BILLION dollar system could potentially do to you.

So yes, I believe that Eminem is risking alot by putting out such a controversial song/video.



I thought my friends who thought the CIA gave Bob Marley the Cancer that killed him were nuts. At least in that case it is possible to accomplish. The CIA did attempt it during one of their many attempts to kill Castro.


Our Govt. has done a lot of crazy things in it's time like testing the effects of Syphilis by using African American men as guinea pigs, but your paranoia is interesting.


A couple quick points: Pryor has MS not Parkinson's. Ali has Parkinson's syndrome, as I understand it, but not actually Parkinson’s disease.

Both cases are easily explained. When you consider all the hits to the head that Ali took as a fighter because of his later fighting style. You see the same thing in many fighters. Ali is not the first and he won't be the last fighter to eventually end up with Parkinson's Syndrome/Disease. Just think about the amount of times a boxer gets hit on his head over the life of his career. The amount of times that causes his brain to be rattled around, for lack of a better way to describe it.

You lose millions of brain cells a day throughout your life, and that is without anyone beating on your head as with a boxer.


You can't give someone MS or Parkinson's Syndrome/Disease. They are not Virus’ that can be contagious.


In Pryor's case, the amount of Free Basing he did not only led to his MS but also at one time led him to light himself on fire.

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Old 10-30-2004, 02:08 AM   #32
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Old 10-30-2004, 02:09 AM   #33
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I don't actually believe in the conspiracy theories.
I merely used those to get people to think a little.

We have no idea what the gov't does behind closed doors, or what their agendas are.

If you were someone who had enough political popularity to change the system that has been built by lies for the past 100 years, do you really think that the billinaires behind the scenes are going to let you do whatever you want?

Doubtful.
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Old 10-30-2004, 02:14 AM   #34
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We have no idea what the gov't does behind closed doors, or what their agendas are.

If you were someone who had enough political popularity to change the system that has been built by lies for the past 100 years, do you really think that the billinaires behind the scenes are going to let you do whatever you want?

Doubtful.
What have you got against Ted kennedy and Therese Heinz Kerry?
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Old 10-30-2004, 02:18 AM   #35
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don't get me started on the kennedy's.

we are totally off track...

the topic is about how horrible the bush administration is and you clever republicans have diverted my attention.

Damn you!
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:18 PM   #36
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I don't actually believe in the conspiracy theories.
I merely used those to get people to think a little.

That's a lot of bullfuck. Don't state opinoins as your own if you're just gonna go back on it when someone disproves it. You only believe in conspiracy theories when no one has pointed out that they're fucking stupid? Come on. Who's actually that dumb that they'd need 'the gov't is out to get Ali' to get them to think.

Other then that, yeah, I kinda liked the video. For a shitty Eminem load of crap. But I just don't like him.
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:20 PM   #37
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i meant 'politically ignorant'.

and yeah, until you prove to me that you have substantial evidence to back up your choice for president, then I'll be the jackass and label you 'politically ignorant'.

There have been very few "republicans" that ive conversed with that even knew what they were supporting.

NDF is not politically ignorant. Most of the people on this forum who support Bush aren't politically ignorant either. Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they're ignorant.

If there have been very few Republicans you've been conversing with who know what they're talking about, then you might just not be traveling in a diverse enough circle. I know a lot of Republicans who know exactly what they're talking about but just don't agree with my political views. We debate all the time - intelligently. Get off your high horse and stop acting like anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant.

I'm a moderate with a liberal bias, btw, and I'm voting for Kerry.
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:54 PM   #38
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Banging your head against a wall burns up 300 calories a minute.
who needs the gym when you can bang your head against a wall!
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Old 10-31-2004, 12:06 AM   #39
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everyone in the entertainment industry is a liberal democrat.

Unless you happen to be Ted Nugent or a member of the Ramones...
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Old 10-31-2004, 12:43 AM   #40
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Unless you happen to be Ted Nugent or a member of the Ramones...

yah or any country band excluding the Dixie Chicks

All politicians lie, if you dont think Kerry lies then your ignorant, you cant make it that high in politics without lying. This whole election is a joke. South park has a point, were just gona have to get used to voting for a Giant Douche and a Big turd, cuz its usually the choice were gona get!
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