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Old 11-01-2004, 12:08 PM   #21
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hmm. I just realised that doing that would bring the same chords as C maj...
and A maj has an accidental when written in c major... C#...
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Old 11-01-2004, 12:13 PM   #22
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Try loads of 70s funk stuff, it's everywhere.
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Old 11-01-2004, 12:34 PM   #23
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Ok, thanks for the info appreciate it!
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Old 11-02-2004, 05:35 AM   #24
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hmm. I just realised that doing that would bring the same chords as C maj...
and A maj has an accidental when written in c major... C#...

Oh yeah... Whoops!!!! I meant Aminor
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Old 11-02-2004, 05:40 AM   #25
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Sticking with D Dorian..

Something like Dm, F, G, C is a very dorian chord sequence. Dm7 followed by a G is a dorian staple too

Sorry, "harmonic set" is a term I'm unfamiliar with.. is that what you meant?

Here's the correct version.

Sorry, I'm an ex guitarist and my head sticks in E too much sometimes
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:20 AM   #26
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Thanks!
That sounds a little more familiar.

I don't want to forget the Dm G A C progression though! New sounds, good good.
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Old 11-05-2004, 01:49 AM   #27
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Problem with the Dorian "tonal system" is that the V is minor (a in d dorian). Similar problems exist with Phrygian, Lydian...usw. If you "fix the Dorian V" to work as a V would in a major key (A dom 7 cadencing to D minor...or major), it turns out to be the same as the Aeolian mode (or the "minor system" we still use today).

Composers from the church polyphony days had to constantly tweak the modes to make them work (eg., using C# to cadence in Dorian...well, C# doesn't really belong in this mode!). The performers were expected to adjust the notes during realization. Couldn't change the whole system without the church rearing its ugly head.

Beethoven tried a Lydian quartet (No. 15, a Minor, Op. 132). It's still basically in F major, despite the stubborn attempt at avoiding "B." Diminished chord on IV in Lydian, though. Pretty difficult, even for Ludwig.
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Old 11-05-2004, 06:18 AM   #28
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I usually find the lydian mode excellent to work with. I love that tritone.
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