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Old 07-28-2004, 01:32 AM   #1
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Discuss styles (and trends) in psychedelia PART 2: "Garage"

The time has come (today ) to finally follow up on my promised series of threads, sorry for getting so far behind.

The following is info I've gathered from liner notes, so I don't know how accurate it is.

"I'm a poor boy born in the rubble
and some say my mannors ain't the best
and some of my friends, they been in real trouble
and some say I'm no better than the rest"

In the late sixties, the British Invasion sound was all the rage, dominated by the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Who, Yardbirds and Animals. These bands who were themselves inspired by American Blues and early rock 'n' roll had more or less swept aside the American rock scene which had slipped into a teen-idol rut after the early days of rock had petered out. All across the country teenagers, inspired by the Brit sound were getting together in self taught bands bringing thier own sound to the scene. Often lacking in talent or skill, and definitely lacking production they made up for in energy, and many managed to get records out and some even had a hit or two. As history would have it, the psychedelic movement exploded as all this was going on forever linking the two movements. Very few of these bands would rival the success of their Brit inspirations, but most would stay in the same bluesy territorry as their heroes more or less.

"Money goes to money
This I know is true
I can see there's no presents for me
There'll be none for you"

Psych eventually became prog and metal, and from there came arena-rock. By the early seventies the music of the period was virtually forgotten. Corporate friendly styles like arena and singer-songwriter had overtaken the airwaves and the record stores alike, when the original Nuggets LP surfaced and led to a cult phenomenon. Copycats with names like Rubble and Pebbles came along, invigorating the do-it-yourself sentiment which allegedly spawned the punk movement of the seventies.

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Old 07-28-2004, 12:43 PM   #2
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sorry i would really like to help your thread to stay alive but you gave a correct overview of a part of rockhistory. i can“t start any discussion. no comments are required.
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Old 07-28-2004, 02:32 PM   #3
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I'm a big fan of 60's garage rock... But, I think there is often a fine line between garage rock and psychedelia... While many garage rockers crossed over to psychedelic rock (We The People and the Lemon Drops are a great example) there seems to be a perception that a lot of garage rock was psychedelic, when in reality, a lot of it was not...

I enjoy a lot of the sloppy play in garage rock... That sloppy play makes the music feel as if it has a pure rocknroll nature to it...


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Old 07-28-2004, 03:00 PM   #4
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Also, a lot of people tell others to get the Nuggets or other similar series of albums when first exploring psychedelia without telling them that a lot of music on those sets is not psychedelic but pure garage rock...

Lots of psychedelic rock evolved from garage rock, but the two really are quite seperate...


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Old 07-30-2004, 01:11 AM   #5
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It's my opinion, thst the two genres crossed over though. I realize all garage is not psychedelic, but I do think that there is a garage sub-genre of psych.
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Old 07-30-2004, 03:08 AM   #6
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I think so.
Actually I think the phenomenom of baby boomers with amplified instruments listening to British Invasion and taking acid...
I think it was very exciting.

I know Syd likes the Chocolate Watch Band and I think they and Count Five and The Seeds might be some high profile examples of this.
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Old 07-30-2004, 03:12 AM   #7
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I guess I should say that there is some psychedelia that is played in a garage rock style... The plain truth is, some of these garage bands started experimenting with guitar and vocal effects and the results were sometimes wonderful... But once again I should preface by saying it could be a real turn off to someone first getting into psychedelia with expectations of hearing the (what I would call) advanced productions of a Strawberry Fields, and they end up hearing the sloppy fuzz of garage psychedelic rock and this could totally confuse a newbie to the genre...

That is why, once again, I try and make it clear that the Nuggets series and the like, need to be explained, before listened to...


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Old 07-30-2004, 03:21 AM   #8
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I like garage too. Often the lines between garage and pschedelia are blurred. The punk movement owes a lot to the garage bands of the 60's. Anyone who wants a good introduction to garage should pick up Nuggets and Nuggets Vol. II.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:48 PM   #9
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Garage and 60's psych often go hand in hand, especially for the US bands.

I enjoy both. I guess that most people who're into psychedelica come from a rock background and let's face it there is now rock such as raw,tingling 60's garage rock
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Old 08-13-2004, 04:14 PM   #10
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While not all garage rock was psychedelic, some of the rawest examples of psychedelia came from garage rock style bands. While they were not making complex studio arrangements like "Strawberry Fields Forever" or "Good Vibrations" bands like the 13th Floor Elevators, the Seeds, the Music Machine, the Electric Prunes, the Count Five, and the Magic Mushrooms all made great high energy, reckless psychedelic music in the mid to late 1960s. Unfortunately for most of these bands they are only known for one or two songs, usually the ones that appeared on compilations such as Nuggets.
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