For me it's all synth music (ambient, idm...whatever)

IDM is like all genres...vague

Likewise you know Lualtone? Play it to a jazz musician and the first word that will come off his mouth will be POP.

IDM is AROVANE and AUTECHRE before Cichli Suite

Which is it? Make up your mind.

Genres arent vague... people are vague. Jazz is jazz, whether its Coleman or Sing Sing Sing. Idm is dead, whether it Oval or Arovane.

Jazz id dead IDM is jazz you crazy on IDM

IDM is a very clear genre and the point where me and Halycyon disagree is the point that he says that IDM needs to realise it exists to then die, whereas I say it needs to realise itself to exist and to change.

As I said before the first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one.

You ain't talking about music man, you too lunatic for real music talking.

No, I'm just trying to inspire change. It's not like other people will suddenly stop writing because of the points I've made and I don't think any of the points I've made are mad.

IDM is stagnating and a genre that exists as an experimental genre cannot stagnate therefore it is now a normal musical genre.

99% of IDM isn't remotely experimental any more, that's just a fact. Thankfully there's still the 1% that is but for how long?

The only way for people to cure it is to sit there and realise that mutating a sample via granular synthesis, bitcrushing drums, doing pretty melodies through lots of reverb, using clicky sounds as drums, etc. is NOT ORIGINAL and therefore not experimental.

Then people will look for other inspiration and new music will come.

exactly. that's what i was thinking, but i just didn't know how to say it.

keef

idm for me is a genre that implies infinite mixture.

just look at some of its influences: modern classic music (glass, cage...), sci fi soundtracks from the 60's, vangelis, jarre, eno, kraftwerk, juan atkins, public enemy, sonic youth, nwa, all sorts ofexperimental music....

idm is not as "purist" and easy to label/recognize as drum and bass, death metal or polka.

idm is pretty much a white canvas where you can draw whatever you want within certain -if any- limits. you can have a drum and bass percussion on an idm track and it will remain idm. there's fast and slow idm, theres idm on 3/4, 5/4 or 8/4. otherwise play drum and bass on a slow tempo and you have hip hop. play slow death metal and you will have doom metal, see what i mean?

MY POINT is that idm is more like a therm to address a group of people (not the stuff they do) who make music with computers pretty much by themselves, whose purpose is not exactly making people dance or think...more like a static combination of the two.

Assuming that what you say is true, how could synth music (or IDM, or whatever) possibly become boring of predictable, as the name of the thread implies? Assuming, that is. Your logic here is obviously flawed one way or the other.