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Originally Posted by Fat_Doug_Punk
don't forget "british oi" started the yank punks off. explain how they are different things. the ramones had personal connections (took drugs with them) with the sex pistols so try to explain how they would be completely different things? and you dare mention the Ramones in the same breath as pop-punk? i see no similarities between the ramones and that glorified bullshit i may have tunnel vision when it comes to this subject but c'mon.... pop punk? sex pistols and the ramones are from the same vein of hell raisers. the end.
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The ramones had heeps of pop influence many of their songs are basically pop punk songs, listen to beat on the brat, my brain is hanging upside down, were a happy family, howling at the moon, the KKK took my baby away, blitzkreig bop, crummy stuff etc etc!! The band did a cover of needle and pins, how can that not be pop punk? Once again you are thinking that pop punk is only the shit that is being done today. There was some good pop punk before the big business of record companies stuffed it up.
and how do you figure that oi started off US punk ??
there's no point in askin' you'll get no reply 
