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Old 05-25-2004, 08:04 PM   #1
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Post The Greatest Avant-Garde Composition Of The 20th Century

Let's have it, your all-time favorite/most respected Avant-Garde composition of the 20th century...essentially, to you, what one piece of music defines the Avant-Garde in one single piece...

...my initial reaction would be John Cage's 4'33", but I'm going to think about it some more before coming to a definite conclusion...
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Old 05-26-2004, 06:57 AM   #2
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...hmmmmm... probably something by Bjork...

...either that or maybe something by Art Bell...

...he doesn't know he's creating music... he thinks he's just doing a radio show....but that's the brilliance of it... that's why it's so fresh sounding every time I listen to it...

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Old 05-26-2004, 10:04 AM   #3
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...either that or maybe something by Art Bell...

...he doesn't know he's creating music... he thinks he's just doing a radio show....but that's the brilliance of it... that's why it's so fresh sounding every time I listen to it...

That's brilliant...best response I could've hoped for!!

Gonna' go see the Day After Tomorrow, drsquid?
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Old 05-26-2004, 11:05 AM   #4
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... ok, I'll stop jerking you around, Seba... for now...

... how about Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" ...? Classic-Avant Garde...
(...jumbo shrimp, military intelligence, american cultural elite...)

anyHoovers, the Rite is MY favorite. Dunno if it is the essence of Avant Garde... 4'33" may be a better choice where that is concerned...

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Old 05-26-2004, 11:31 PM   #5
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I'll go with "Rite of Spring". It set off the powder keg, really.
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Old 05-26-2004, 11:57 PM   #6
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I'll go with "Rite of Spring". It set off the powder keg, really.


Actually, the Riot that occurred at the premiere on May 29, 1913, at the Théatre des Champs-Elysées in Paris had nothing to do with the music. It was the Ballet for Les Sylphides that actually caused the riot at the premiere, which included the outrageous costumes (skin-tight and see-through material), unusual choreography and bizarre story of a pagan sacrifice. You can thank Serge Diaghilev, director of the Ballets Russes for the Riot and not Stravinsky.

The music was more along the lines of the straw that broke the Camel's back.
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Old 05-27-2004, 12:30 PM   #7
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Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima (Penderecki)

That one got "OUT"

I love Ligeti but this was earlier.
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Old 05-27-2004, 01:43 PM   #8
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Old 05-27-2004, 04:12 PM   #9
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pick one

okay, without listing a huge list, I would say Olivier Messiaen is my vote.
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Old 05-27-2004, 05:57 PM   #10
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..But Seba...as soon as you name it, doesn't it CEASE to be "avante garde"?
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