This argument is something I fought against not so long ago but it worries me now..

I love IDM and like an errant child when I hear album after album of the same old shit coming out I want to grab it and smack its bottom shouting "NO NO NO" for it's own good.

How many times can we hear a Tri Repartae clone before it drives us mad or another Vsnares album or clone.

It's starting to go like EBM where you can hardly tell the difference between one band and another and there's so much of a saturation out there I could spend years catching up with all the acts I haven't heard and still not have the time to give them justice.

Point 1: In a partially experimental genre multiple albums should not sound the same.

So why do they?

When I was writing my album there were points where I thought.. should I put this in? Won't it alienate me from the IDM genre? and I realised then just how insular the genre was which is precisely why when I had that feeling of should I put it in I would make a POINT of putting it in.

I hope that musicians start to realise that just because they cleverly made a grinding noise out of a fish farting it doesn't make their track good, it takes more than that.

Anyway.... rant over.

lol whoa, just let it all out, Keef!!

Yeah, I didn't fancy mincing words.

The truth hurts. I think it sets the record for the quickest un-mainstream genre to become safe/bland/generic/frustratingly boring. Probably not, but fuck it.

I don't think IDM going mainstream is something to ever really worry about.

All genres go through periods of stagnation, but they usually come out of it after a while. I just hope it comes out sooner rather than later.

why be a caged chicken when you have a choice of being a free range?

but then, a lot of people feel safer to stay inside a cage.

I wanna be a free range chicken, and therefore, I am gonna use whatever fits in a song.

Exactly...

That's what too many people DON'T do!!

I think halcyon also ranted about this earlier. And I pretty much agree with both of you.

Yeah I've given up on the shit. Pseudotrop made the most cogent case, however.

I think the problem is that the whole electronic music community is so fixated on genres and subgenres and subsubgenres when it's all really about creative individuals. Unimaginative people will play around with IDM cliches 'till someone truly original will come around and blow the whole genre up and turn it into something completely different. Maybe.