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03-16-2004, 01:25 PM
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what's jazz, and what's not
I know this could get into a big discussion, but sometimes, things get posted here, that aren't jazz, like Norah Jones. What do you guys think is jazz...I know it's a very hard question, but I like those kind of discussions :tongue:
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03-16-2004, 04:04 PM
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Well at one time, the definition would be that it's based on the blues and it swings and includes improvisation.
Ken Burns and Wynton Marsalis would have you believe that is the only definition. And that all the avant and free jazz is not jazz. This is why they shortchanged the last 40 years of the history of Jazz in that horrendous documentary, Jazz.
Of course, Wynton as the "savior" of Jazz got a lot of attention in the last part of the documentary.
This is also why Wynton and his bands/orchestra play as if they are still in the 40’s. It’s a lifeless imitation but still an imitation.
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03-16-2004, 04:20 PM
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"If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know" - Satchmo :tongue:
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03-16-2004, 04:22 PM
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"If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know" - Satchmo :tongue:
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I thought of using that, but Stardust wanted an actual discussion.  And she appears to be quick to pull out the whip today. :tongue: :tongue:
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03-16-2004, 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Satchmo8101
I thought of using that, but Stardust wanted an actual discussion. And she appears to be quick to pull out the whip today. :tongue: :tongue:
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Yeah, it seems like I'm bent on ruining all of Stardust's threads lately (see festival thread)!
I apologize, Stardust, it's not intentional. 
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03-16-2004, 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by Seba Aethiad
"If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know" - Satchmo :tongue:
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 , well it's a nice quote. 
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03-16-2004, 07:20 PM
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Drama Queen
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I know what jazz is, but why do you think that some people refer Norah Jones as jazz?
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03-16-2004, 07:25 PM
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I know what jazz is, but why do you think that some people refer Norah Jones as jazz?
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I think most of her fans think she and her music is Jazz. That's because most of them have never heard any real jazz or jazz singers.
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03-16-2004, 07:31 PM
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yeah, ok that was a very good and short reply.
yeah you're right, you know, I think, it juts irrtates me a lot, when people reffer to this kind of music as jazz.
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03-16-2004, 07:35 PM
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