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08-27-2004, 03:55 PM
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Shoes for the Dead
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Los Angeles
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It's Bartok's complete string quartets for the rest of the day / ABQ performing (my favorite recording so far)
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08-27-2004, 03:59 PM
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#152
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He...Who Drops Knowledge
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Originally Posted by Roivas
I know he punched a trombone player (Knepper, thank you!) in the mouth and knocked out a cap or two.
Yeah, he chopped the guys chair in half after being threatened with a knife and was dismissed by Duke as a result.
Well, those kinds of things are just interesting anecdotes.
Mingus's anger was usually expressed in self-destructive ways.
Mixed heritage? Or yeah, isn't he a blood relative of Abraham Lincoln? "But Dad, I don't want to be white!"
( Hey you edited...well, my thing is in response to your fist paragraph...)
I know...that Mingus stuff is all just crazy musician behavior. It's different when Wagner's polemics are brought up and I feel like I have to "defend my record collection."
What about Karajan's Nazi affiliation...no-one brings that up either.
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I am confused. Did I say or imply that you had to defend your record collection? 
Mingus would even get upset when the performance was perfect and he could not use a bad (at least in his mind) performance as an excuse to vent.
But to what I said earlier. It all depends on who you ask about what or who is considered unsavory. As well as there being a lot less music to listen to if we based our listening on the musicians personalities/behaviors/opinions.
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08-27-2004, 04:20 PM
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#153
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Shoes for the Dead
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Originally Posted by Satchmo8101
I am confused. Did I say or imply that you had to defend your record collection?
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Not you, but people who value a composer's life and personality more than the actual music.
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08-27-2004, 07:16 PM
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Music Preacher
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
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Originally Posted by Satchmo8101
Wagner did have an appreciation of Jewish composers such as Mendelssohn (his "Hebrides Overture") and Halévy (his opera "The Jewess").
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...sm/Wagner.html
http://www.jewishmediaresources.com/article/676/
God, you are too fast for me in posting 
My philosophy : there's no, good person (man, woman) no, bad person. There's only persons who do good things and/or bad things. Most of the time we do what we have learnt to do. But we have the ability to change our mind. Only the fools can't.
Some of them can convince you to commit suicide for their cause. Amazing mankind.
Moondog 
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08-27-2004, 09:01 PM
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I Love Avant-Garde Music
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: England
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Originally Posted by Satchmo8101
I am confused. Did I say or imply that you had to defend your record collection?
Mingus would even get upset when the performance was perfect and he could not use a bad (at least in his mind) performance as an excuse to vent.
But to what I said earlier. It all depends on who you ask about what or who is considered unsavory. As well as there being a lot less music to listen to if we based our listening on the musicians personalities/behaviors/opinions. |
Mingus showed a great deal of love to his sideman as well.
He basically taught Dannie Richmond his drummer how to play the drums and stuck with him for a very long time.
He also thought Eric Dolphy was one of the greatest guys in the world. After Dolphy's tradgic early death Mingus named his son 'Eric Dolphy Mingus'.
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08-27-2004, 09:19 PM
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#156
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Music Preacher
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
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08-27-2004, 09:27 PM
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I Love Avant-Garde Music
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: England
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I'm sorry Moondog.
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08-27-2004, 09:43 PM
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Music Preacher
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
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I'm sorry Moondog.
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Don't be sorry. It confims my theory about categorization.
Music is music Classical, jazz, etc.
I chose Lully because he is just before classic, it's more Renaissance music.
Ok, Satchmo8101 : Baroque 
Moondog
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08-28-2004, 12:16 AM
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He...Who Drops Knowledge
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Originally Posted by Geoff
Mingus showed a great deal of love to his sideman as well.
He basically taught Dannie Richmond his drummer how to play the drums and stuck with him for a very long time.
He also thought Eric Dolphy was one of the greatest guys in the world. After Dolphy's tradgic early death Mingus named his son 'Eric Dolphy Mingus'.
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Read the post before the one you quoted. I said Mingus could be an angel or a lunatic. Just like a good many bipolar people.
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08-28-2004, 12:19 AM
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He...Who Drops Knowledge
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Well when you consider the post you quoted was posted 15 hrs before your's that I am quoting now, it's not that fast.
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