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Old 03-01-2004, 11:50 PM   #11
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Well i really don't know what to put here I have so much to say but i will sum it all up in this .
If you download a song from the internet without permision from the artist, THAT IS THEFT, just like if you were to walk into the actual store and steal the album IT IS STILL THEFT, just becuase your getting it from the internet and so many other people are doing it does not in any way make it right. If you really like an artist go and buy there album/single
Also as far as cutting an artist becuase there not as popular as some of the others a company might have signed IT CANT HAPPEN a record company makes up a contract that contract is for whatever years, the artist in some contracts has to make songs that sell and in some cases has a quota of the amount of track they must make in a time, if those songs dont do well they have breached the contract (in some cases) some contracts are just for the rights to the artist (includes comission etc). Any way To sum it all up support your artist by BUYING THERE MUSIC or even fan mail go to there concerts love them give them a kiss, have there babies and then sue
BUT STEAL THERE ALBUM AND THE RECORD COMPANY IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT LOSES
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Old 03-02-2004, 12:05 AM   #12
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Old 03-15-2004, 10:17 AM   #13
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My god, you have discovered that money talks and that it makes the world go 'round.

The industry is blaming p2p networks because they can.

That seems to be a pretty simple and basic view of the situation. Most people already know this, but it's more about how money talks than simply knowing that it does.
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Old 03-15-2004, 10:24 AM   #14
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The thing is, the major record labels are so ridiculously rich, actually having enough money to make pop stars is probably not a concern of theirs. The guys at the top are still going home in limos either way.

Popstars are a million dollar industry. They do need a shitload of money to sponsor them, but then they expect to get even more back.

So even if a label does have ridiculous amounts of money now, if they don't get more money back, ie people buying records etc, that money is going to run out.
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Old 03-15-2004, 10:30 AM   #15
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Re: Re: My theory on the Industry's crying over music downloads

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And also I think this whole, apple music store/napter music store is a great idea. People pay for the music they like....so instead of buying a whole CD, somebody can pick out the music they like from it and download it for .99$....hence.....music artist will not get away with making just one good somng and have all the others on the CD suck butt.
This sounds really good. But it may spell the end of the 'album' which may or may not be so good.

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I would imagine that this would make some better music for us to listen to.
That's what I thought. No money to 'manufacture' music, so they have to employ people who already know how to do it themselves.
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Old 03-15-2004, 04:51 PM   #16
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I don't even mind downloading if there's a price. Like Puretracks.com, as far as I know some money gets back to the artist. If not I won't consider that site in the future.
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Old 03-16-2004, 01:40 AM   #17
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Do you realy want to here music that is manufactured or did i take 1 of your replies the wrong way?
If you ment manufacture as in make the record Album And Promo it and the rest There is still money for that with the companies that are persuing the law suits the prob is the companies that dont get behind th RIAA there the ones that are going to lose big time and music piracy will be the end of decent artists
that are not manufactured
Im not trying to say that any company that does not get behind the RIAA are losers im just saying that they will conitue to be exploited by music piracy on the NET and they are (most of the time) the companies that put out artists that push the boundry and creat sounds/tunes/music that is written by someone that we will never hear of and then sung by a person that has a name nothing wrong with that in some cases but some of these artists that have hits (supported by the big labels) have no musical talent but singing lessons and a gift
hey Like i said in my first post in this thread I have so much to say on this issue (like alot of us do) and im sure some of this post made sense but Piracy is Piracy its theft
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Old 03-16-2004, 05:36 AM   #18
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It is theft, I'm never tried to say that it wasn't. I started this thread because I thought that I'd found a possible explanation for why RIAA is so tense.

The way I see it, the major labels bought it onto themselves by going into these high priced ventures and raising prices. Seriously, I'm not saying this is the way it is, but maybe the digital sound format .mp3 only came about because saving a music cd in .wav files just took up too much space.

I know I'm probably off the mark with that last point, but I really doubt that so many people would be downloading music, or at least it would have got to the stage where it is so easy to download music, if music was simply cheaper.

Speaking on my on behalf, it's easier for me to go and buy an Album than to download it. I can just drop into a cd store on the way home and pick it up, no biggie. Downloading takes a huge amount of time, more than going to the store. So the only real advantage of downloading music for me is the financial one. If albums were down to, say, $12-$15 (AUS) then I would really rather buy than download.

But it seems like the big labels have really dug a hole that they can't afford to get out of. Even if cd prices did go down, most people will still download music because its so easy whereas if the prices never went up the idea of downloading music might not even exist!

I can see that it could be the smaller labels that will get the blunt end of the stick, but I like to think that most people who are sophisiticated enough to find out about most of the smaller, less mainstream bands go out and buy their albums.

And no, I don't want to hear manufactured music! Which post did you get that from?
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Old 03-21-2004, 06:18 AM   #19
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Doest matter wich post
You explained yourself very well and I agree with you fully in your last post I guess this is a very touchy subjected for me and alot can be taken out of context when it is written and not face to face as we all know.
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Old 03-21-2004, 08:43 AM   #20
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Fair enough. Glad you agree.
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